Star Wars Fans Always Agree with Each Other - eviltoast
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    4 months ago

    I don’t see why I should be downgraded for not enjoying all the main movies when not all of them were enjoyable.

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      4 months ago

      Makes you weak, because they were enjoyable.

      You just had different expectations.

      But even the sequels were more enjoyable than say Twilight.

      • tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Something Lucas did well in my eyes was world building. To me that’s the most redeeming part of the prequels, the universe felt vast yet connected. The sequels felt small in comparison and a little too familiar. The only place I wanted to see more of was Kijimi.

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          Something Lucas did well in my eyes was world building.

          I sort of agree. World building was good as long as it stuck to establishing interesting characters and planets, but George had the tendency to cram the screen with CGI creatures which served no purpose other than to dazzle and distract the viewer.

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      4 months ago

      After all this time, it almost seems worse, Disney has proven they can make good Star Wars content so the sequels feel even more flat in comparison after an Andor

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      4 months ago

      I have a different take.

      The prequels were ass, then they gave us 7 seasons of some of the best Star Wars content there is to fill in the gaps and make the story cohesive. Now I love the prequels.

      With how bad the sequels are I can only assume the cartoon we get to fill in the gaps will be a fucking banger.

      Please.

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        4 months ago

        That’s ignoring a lot of context and nuance. The prequels we’re bad because of the dialogue, Anakin’s character development and CGI, but the story was always spectacular because it was created by one person with a clear vision. The “story” in the sequels is incoherent and an absolute mess because it’s a story told by a bunch of people who didn’t know where they were going when they started (or even while they were making them). Clone wars had better dialogue and fixed Anakin’s character development while also telling stories created by the same person who was in charge of the movies the show is proving context for.

        If Disney tried making an animated show to flesh out the sequel’s, who would even be making it?

    • marcos@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Well, I’m disappointed with almost every Star Wars thing… just more with the sequels.

      At the same time I like most of them.

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      4 months ago

      The holiday special is best star wars story told. To be sure, it borrows from a lot of the character building that had already taken place, but that adds to it, not detracts. Where as the main trilogy was a scifi retelling of a classical samurai tale, the Christmas special comes with its own new ideas as to what drives the starwars universe and the plight of the everyman under the empires boot heel, a perspective we actually didnt get to see much. I think it was bold artistic direction made possible by the original trilogy’s unexpected success, and we’re richer as a species for the temerity of the writers. The tones got a bit more alacrity than the trilogy which catches a lot of fans off gaurd but nothing to objectively dismiss it for.

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    4 months ago

    It’s all about the Caravan of Courage. Nothing ever better created for the SW Universe.

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    4 months ago

    Look all I’m saying is, if you didn’t laugh your absolute ass off as Grampa Itchy watched softcore porn in the family room while everyone was still there, then something is deeply wrong with you.

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    4 months ago

    I have read some bad fucking Star Wars books in my youth. Still love them. Even Darksaber, where a random hutt builds a death star because it’s actually even easier to build planet-destroying weapons than Disney made it seem.

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      To be fair, he failed because he cheaped the fuck out. Instead of making it bigger, he made it smaller and just included the laser part with no space station parts. And then it blew up because he built it in an asteroid field.

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    I think everyone, OP included need to step back and realize that Star Wars is a corporate product, not a philosophy/religion/political way of life. (Yes, yes, I know about muh Jedi religion). From the first movie, Lucas had toy sales in mind even before the movie was completed. The “world building” was designed to maximize the number of toy action figures and vehicles. Ironically, one of the reasons Disney has failed with SW is that they neglected the toy designs. There is no need to do free advertising for Disney or become their evangelical missionaries.

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      4 months ago

      No need to kink shame someone’s interests. Enjoy what you enjoy and let others enjoy what they enjoy.

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    The entire problem with the sequels is that they flushed all of the book canon down the toilet so that Disney could skull fuck the franchise for a quick buck.

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        Trouble is that they even killed future stories that would resolve started plotlines. They could easily have made the Sword of the Jedi into the sequel trilogy. But noooo, instead they just stumbled into it without any coherent plan.

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    4 months ago

    Man, I LOVED the rogue squadron books when I was a kid. I still think they’re a pretty fun read, though I haven’t picked them up in at least a decade.

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    Woa. many books were way better than much of the media. books should be like the first step or maybe two I guess after original trilogy. mmm. this starts really late to. I don’t even make it to step one.