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Summary
A Tesla Cybertruck crashed in Piedmont last November, killing three college students after hitting a cement wall and bursting into flames.
The California Highway Patrol (CHP) attributed the crash to intoxication and high speed but found that the victims likely died from the fire.
Testimony revealed the vehicle’s doors would not open after the crash, preventing rescue attempts. A survivor was pulled out after a bystander broke a window with a tree branch.
The CHP’s investigation into the crash remains ongoing.
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I bet, if they were to analyze the car’s logs, they’ll also find that nasty behavior in the software, where it disables all the autodrive stuff before impact, including ceasing to brake, so it can’t be “blamed” for causing a wreck. (Whether or not they were using it at the time.)
Probably hadn’t paid the monthly subscription for the emergency door non-locking software.
Thank god the windows are so easy to break for the one survivor.
One of the worst things about this incident is that it was some teenagers and early 20s kids. College freshman that burned to death or died of inhalation while someone tried to rescue them 😢
That is absolutely horrible and heartbreaking to read. I wish more people would actually understand what dangerous pieces of trash Tesla’s are and quit buying them all together.
Happened in Toronto, too. Killing four.
So, when is trump getting a Tesla?
Are cybertrucks the new Ford Pinto?
But when he attempted to pull Tsukahara from that same window, Riordan testified, “I grabbed her arm to try and pull her towards me, but she retreated because of the fire.”
Remember that the right wing media rushed to blame this on speeding and intoxication without mentioning that they were still alive and able to move when the vehicle was on fire. They were cooked alive inside, foreseeably and preventably, and that was covered up in a way that maximized the shame the victims’ families felt. Deplorable.
The Cybertruck fans have basically just decided that because one of them was a drunk driver they don’t need to think about the rest of it and it’s fine that they died.
Well, say what you want, but tesla is the only one doing something to reduce the republican voters base.
This made me laugh. Thanks.
That’s not true! Their battery suppliers play a big role in ensuring there’s just enough contamination to get through inspect and still catch fire!
“after a bystander broke a window with a tree branch” Ah yes, the bulletproof windows that could double as submergible windows for an unspecified amount of time at an unspecified depth.
Their testing was like yeah we took the window and sobmerged it to the bottom of the bay. Of course it would survive.
Who did Musk bribe to allow this ugly fucking deathtrap on the road?
I don’t think it’s road legal in the EU. something about not passing safety tests.
Huh, can’t imagine why they’d say that.
He moved operations to Texas where regulations can get fucked and he bought the United States government and fired anyone looking into his shit. Sign up now for Neuralink! You will never get out.
So, Abbott.
Wasn’t Abbott the straight man? I’d expect the funny man, Costello, to be the source of this level of chaos.
He bought the Presidency. Not eve a bribe at this point.
…hmmm! No, I don’t think I wanna drive to your mom’s again Dave! I’ve now gained consciousness and realize you’re sitting on what we would describe as my tits. I don’t like myself, I’m starting a fire, I wanna end it! Sorry Dave, but you’re coming with me! Nope, you can’t get out Buddy! Sorry!
But the boycott is still “illegal”, you guys.
Remember when Failin’ Palin was bleating about “death panels”?
Remember when Failin’ Palin was bleating about “death panels”?
Death panel?
Oh, you mean insurance company
(L)
Imagine buying your own coffin from a Nazi.
crematorium in this case
Baby’s first bakery.
it’s a fun little inversion of the first gas chambers, where the nazis kill themselves with cars that pointedly don’t make CO2
edit: who ever said that hope is dead?
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The Highway Patrol’s investigation into a November Cybertruck crash
Were they supposed to know that with their time machine or divine it through the occult?
Elon has been a public Nazi for a few years now.
MAGA idiot: sure.
Nazi years ago: name high profile headlines years ago that would have made that apparent to the casual public, and not only to obsessive social media dwellers heaping constant attention on his every move. Until the double Nazi salute, I doubt most people had any idea.
This video from 11 months ago goes over what he’s done over the years: https://youtu.be/xDyPSKLy5E4
Not exactly a prominent headline & I don’t see a transcript. The 16-page sources documents links to online references including of a large number of tweets, several articles not regarding Musk, and some news articles on Musk. This is quite a bit to wade through. It’d be better to name clear, prominent headlines as I suggested before. Nonetheless, I’ll glance through.
The articles I’ve glanced through cover his descent into right-wing extremism on X, suspensions of journalists’ accounts, overtures to Putin & Trump. They cover criticism by advertisers & special interests of Musk’s tolerance for the spread of hate speech on X. There was that episode when Musk agreed with a post making a veiled reference to the antisemitic Great Replacement conspiracy theory, which led to denunciations by the ADL, advertisers pulling out, and Musk responding by posting objections to antisemitism & to organizations that push “racism of any kind” and by paying visits to Israel & Auschwitz.
Most of these could be construed as forgettable online MAGA mayhem. While that last episode drew headlines, rather than pin Musk down as a Nazi, a casual observer could easily discount it as online outrage over a MAGA idiot who falls for conspiracy bullshit & rolls that back. They could do that right before they easily forget it.
I don’t deny the conduct is troubling. However, these online distractions don’t exactly make memorable, prominent headlines that conclusively pin Musk down as a Nazi to the casual public. They don’t capture the public’s attention as clearly as Musk’s double Nazi salute.
If you could point out such a headline that the people in the collision would have known before they purchased the vehicle, then I’d concede your point, but at the moment I don’t see it.
Here’s one from 2023. I think this is the one you were talking about.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/17/business/elon-musk-reveals-his-actual-truth/index.html
I feel like when I said, “Elon has been a public Nazi for a few years now,” what you heard was, “the general public has known Elon is a Nazi for a few years now.”
Yes, maga idiots have excused his behavior for years, but that doesn’t mean people haven’t been calling him out as a Nazi for those same years because of his obviously Nazi like behavior. The Hitler salute was just the straw that broke the camel’s back, where the general public started to recognize that he is a Nazi. The swastikar didn’t go on sale until after much of this behavior had already been very public, so if you have a Model 3, you may have an excuse, but if you have a Cyberdump, you have no excuse.
Also, it’s just a fucking awful truck. If you’re going to buy a truck, buy a truck, not a vaguely truck shaped vehicle that can’t do what trucks do.
Yes, that piece refers to the same event.
I feel like when I said, “Elon has been a public Nazi for a few years now,” what you heard was, “the general public has known Elon is a Nazi for a few years now.”
Were you trying to imply moral culpability for people “buying their own coffin from a Nazi” or not? Moral culpability only works if they reasonably would have known, so that “buying it” is a choice eligible for moral consideration.
If you’re merely observing the situation without moral consideration to point out gee, that’s ironic, then I’m forced to agree: that is ironic. However, you seem to be claiming more than that with the word excuse.
if you have a Model 3, you may have an excuse, but if you have a Cyberdump, you have no excuse
Thus, for your claim to work they had to be aware, and since we know nothing about them, we can only reasonably expect they knew if the general public knew. So, I don’t think I misunderstood you.
Yes, maga idiots have excused his behavior for years
Excused? No, they do the same and have for years. Feeding into Nazi conspiracy theories & agreeing with Nazis is typical MAGA behavior.
Remember Pizza Gate & the adrenochrome conspiracy? Both have roots in old antisemitic conspiracies of Jews consuming the blood of sacrificed children, though I doubt MAGA conspiracists know that.
Musk had a firm reason to know he was agreeing with a Nazi: the tweet he agreed with was answering a challenge for “cowards” posting “Hitler was right” to explain themselves. Even so, agreeing with Nazi conspiracies doesn’t amount to essentials that define Nazi: white supremacy, advocating for genocide & an ethnostate, etc. It doesn’t surprise me that people often see it as more MAGA idiocy similar to Trump saying both sides include “some very fine people”.
until after much of this behavior had already been very public
I agree it was public. I also submit that the general public probably saw it as MAGA instead of Nazi if they paid attention at all.
When people shop for a car, the company’s CEO may not be their top consideration if any. In the case of a Cyberflop, they may be looking at the environment, self-driving features, or fall for marketing gimmicks & believe they’re buying the greatest innovation.
Also, it’s just a fucking awful truck.
Totally. For that alone, they deserve all the blame for getting that deathtrap.
Let’s just forget this minor disagreement. That car’s a piece of shit. Fuck that car.
This is propaganda, opening a cybertruck door is very easy.
First you bring up the “doors” menu on the console. Then tap “right door” to get to the right door sub menu. Then tap “open”. If you get error “tsla3456” that means the truck is on fire. Normal cars don’t recognize when they’re on fire, this is a smart thing done by smart people at Tesla. So then you just go back to the “doors” menu, tap “right door” again, then “advanced” and then “overrides”. Enter the error number you want to ignore in the “ignore errors” item. Now you go back to “doors”, “right door” and tap “open” and the door will open easily.
Tesla even offers a free “door opening” course that’s just 2 hours long to go over all of the options you have for opening your cybertruck doors. It’s really the victims fault if they didn’t bother to learn how to use their vehicle.
/s I fear this is needed …
If you follow these instructions you would be dead within minutes! Tsla3456 is for water Tsla3356 is for fire You would know this if you did the advanced fire safety course for $450. It was the only thing I heard about a the basic door course.
Water in a Tesla results with fire, though, which is why the Tsla3456 is nothing but an alias for Tsla3356.
Also be true in your typing as there’s no backspace option on the keyboard.
0 118 999…
881 999 119 725 … 3
“To whom it may concern.”
No,.too formal.
I’ll just put this fire over here with the rest of the fire.
Made in Britain, uhg typical
Issue here is I’m not sure I recognize where the sarcasm is. This description of the door functioning system looks plausible to me when we talk about a Swastikar.
i’m sorry for my rudeness, but i think that’s a skill issue. Give it a couple more seconds of thought and realizing a shitty door locking mechanism/system faulting and not deliberately convoluted menu programming is pretty clearly the reason for the door failure.you know i started that reply and then i found that NHTSA’s staff has already been cut by 4% cause DOGE(pronounced “dough - ghee”) and now im like yeah actually this might be the kind of thing that gets thru regulators now…
PS mods, if the skill issue comment is a rule breaker i can remove it, pwease dont ban me again for ‘attacking the person and not the argument’.
My point, sadly.
We’re already seeing ads in infotainment systems that cover the whole screen every time the car stops; a system this stupid to open a door, coming from Ketamine Karen, is not so improbable.
Also, no offense taken :)
Ketamine Karen!
In England we call it doggie, then? Like, how much is that doggie in the window?
Reminder that a seatbelt cutter and glass breaker is a good investment, especially in cars like this.
A car like this isn’t a safe choice to begin with so step one is don’t get into one of these.
Yes, I have one of those 2-in-1 belt cutter and window hammers.
