Safe - eviltoast
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    Everywhere they went people were getting kidnapped, orcs were invading, trees were coming to life, and the dead were rising. Id want to be far away from that elevator.

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    So ackshually…

    Aragorn was descended from Elros who was a half-elf, but that was so long ago he may or may not be a full man depending on how racist one is about miscegenation.

    Legolas was an elf and Gimli was a dwarf, so explicitly not Men.

    How about Eomer and Faramir instead?

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      Elros and Elrond had a choice as to become Eldar or Edain. Elrond chose Eldar, while Elros chose Edain. Once they chose their mixed nature was resolved.

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        Not exactly, since the Númenóreans still had longer lives than Men due to their elven heritage. So while one could absolutely make the argument they were Men, there’s also a case to be made saying they weren’t pureblooded Men.

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            The Fellowship broke apart because Boromir tried to take the Ring from Frodo at Amon Hen and Frodo used it to disappear and run from him.

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              The Fellowship broke apart because it wasn’t strong enough to make the journey. It never was. Bormir is the reason that the Ringbearer was able to make it away from the Fellowship’s camp and eventually to Mordor.

              He was a hero. He lived as one and died as one.

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                I didn’t say he wasn’t. I don’t fault him for it; no one could resist the power the Ring promised forever. But it’s a fact that his moment of weakness is what caused the party to split; because that’s exactly what happened.

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      Arnold’s got a decent number of allegations against him, but Andre would protect you so I guess it’s honestly a freebie for the other two if he’s in the mix.

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        Andre was a sweetheart, but a famous alcoholic. You’d have to worry about him passing out drunk. You don’t want to get crushed by a 500 pound teddy bear in a small space.

        There’s a story of him passing out drunk in a hotel bar and the staff just having to let him stay the night where he fell because they couldn’t move him.

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    I’d choose: Boromir, Ned Stark, and Sean Bean.

    No way anything bad can happen to me with those magnets around.

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      The whole elevator would just crash through the foundation. You’d be collateral when Death gets a 3 for 1 final destination style.

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        Nah, I think it’d go more like this:

        • Get it in the elevator and see them all in there.
        • Go to press the button for your floor (the top floor) and see that it’s already pressed.
        • Have a pleasant trip up.
        • Arrive at your floor and the doors open.
        • All three politely allow you to exit first.
        • Step out of the lift safely.
        • Elevator malfunctions, plummets and crashes through the foundation.
        • Walk off thinking how nice they all were.
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      I dunno. Might take Sharpe instead of Ned Stark, good to have someone that knows how to use a rifle

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    Let’s be real. We’re all NPCs so if any of the men are from something with action, we’ll probably end up dead. My pick would be Bob Ross, Mr. Rogers, and Steve Irwin. Super calming and chill

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        Alright.

        1d4, and this is the order; 1 = red, 2 = yellow, 3 = blue, 4 = green.

        And I got 3, so that’s blue! :D

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      Ehhh debatable if Data is a “man”, and LaForge… well, he wouldn’t be on my list. My picks from TNG to share a turbolift would would be Picard, O’Brien and Riker. Picard would be either ruminating on some deep crisis or current drama and be quiet and majestic. O’Brien would be preoccupied and anxious about some project and trying to build up the courage to talk to the senior officers about it. Riker would be relaxed, polite and crack a joke that would make you chuckle.

      If counting non-human male characters across ST, then Data, Odo and Spock.

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          Sure but he would handle rejection well and laugh it off. Riker, afaicr, respected signals and consent. He flirted with people who seemed open to it and was perfectly professional to those who weren’t. What makes flirting feel unsafe is the threat of men taking it badly if rejected.

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        Pretty sure Data’s status was solidified in Measure of a Man. I was also keeping it era and crew consistent, so no cross-era or cross-crew groups. The reason being that it is in keeping with the meme above.

        As for why I chose Data, Riker, and LaForge; for their technical problem solving skills. And that they work really well together solving technical problems. I don’t need anyone to be majestic or fret about some project. I need them to fix the elevator. XD

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        I mean… No Worf? I feel like he’d be the safest choice together with Data

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          Eh, he can have a temper, I know it doesn’t necessarily come up day to day but when he’s pissed he doesn’t always contain his anger. He’s safer than a lot of people but no he doesn’t make my top three. My runner up for top three male non-humans was actually Garak.

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        Eh, I’d say R2-D2 doesn’t count as a “man” at all, being neither human nor clearly gendered in any way.

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          C-3P0, our translator for R2’s boopspeak uses he/him pronouns for the little guy and so does at least Luke so he’s effectively masc presenting. One could argue he’s a man but the society he’s in effectively classes sentient droids as property without the reserve they do for non-artificial species and are unlikely to confer the other cultural aspects “manhood” onto a droid.

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        I don’t know about feeling “safe” with Han, but unsafe in a good way. Like I trust him but not myself. Artoo could probably plug in and fix the elevator, too.

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          I’m old school. He didn’t make it out of the first movie.

          If I grew up with prequels, then yeah. Chewie as well if I could fit a fourth.

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    The fact that they had to go to fictional characters is significant.

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      To be fair, being fictional means they’re significantly less dimensional than real people and are incapable of holding secrets.

      I mean there are real people I feel absolutely safe around, but they’re just normal people I know and have built trust with. There are no famous people I can say the same for because I don’t know them personally, even if they seem good on the surface. And for fictional characters like these, we “know” Aragorn is safe because he’s written to be benevolent, we’ve read his entire life, and the author’s dead so there’s no possibility for new material to change that perception.

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      The people you know well enough to trust them are close to you but unknown to others, so other people wouldn’t really appreciate your unswer if it was just some common unknown people. You mostly cannot bet on the character of celebrities, because you don’t know them personally (see Gaiman). Fictional characters are known by many people and their personalities are nicely described in the books, movies, whatever…

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      Good point!

      Okay, real world examples from me (notably, a big dude, so y’know, probably not as in tune to things as I could be):

      Bernie Sanders My brother My Uncle

      … I… Really thought I’d have better options until I really started thinking about it

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          I’d swap Steve for Bernie.

          Not because I think Steve would hurt anyone directly. But at any moment he may be like “would you like to see this deadly spider I’ve got in m’pocket?” And then pull out a spider that even spider scientists didn’t know existed or some shit. He would never let the spider hurt you, but you’d have a heart attack anyway.

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            I think he’d respect the spider enough not to keep it in a pocket. Though Bernie seems popular in the comments too.

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        I would take “men” to just mean “male people,” since it’s not being asked in the context of a fantasy world.

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      I feel like Gimli would hog it, Aragorn would obviously be awesome, and Legolas would be chill but you could tell he’s thinking your weed sucks, he’s got a much better connection.

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        i like to imagine that weed is the opposite of beer when it comes to elves and dwarves, elves barely even notice while dwarves start giggling when standing next to someone puffing a blunt

        Oh and hobbits would of course treat it like something abjectly holy, they already take pipeweed extremely seriously and that’s just tobacco. Actual devil’s lettuce might well start hobbit cults.