"Alarm bells" ringing after abortion and IVF bans, with fears that contraception could be next - eviltoast
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    100%. If they think life starts at conception then the pill, IUDs, and plan B are out. Then we’ll see the mental gymnastics over condoms.

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        The religious right thinks premarital sex is a sin. And they are all about imposing their views on others.

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          The religious right thinks YOUR premarital sex is a sin. They are totally fine with THEIR premarital/adulterous/rape sex.

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        A common misconception is that conservative/religious men in the lower ecclons aren’t similarly oppressed.

        The truth is that sweeping populations of men are controlled by the higher ups in those groups.

        It’s the leaders controlling “the rabble”, not all the men controlling all the women.

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          If a peasant feels superior to his wife, he’ll kick her when the master kicks him. Having women at the bottom of the pile makes it easier for the elite to maintain power.

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            If a peasant feels superior to his wife, he’ll kick her when the master kicks him.

            When the woman is made to “be lesser” and the man is made to go to the church, the man is broken down all day, and he goes home to his wife who he proceeds to break down.

            When “the master” kicks him, he kicks her.

            I’m not saying to not stand up for the oppressed women. I’m saying encourage the women to see it and escape it.

            I’m also saying 50 men tops in these circles are “higher up”, and 5 of them are “top”, and the other 50,000 abused and oppressed men also need to see it and escape.

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      Can you explain how the pill and IUD are out?

      The combined oral contraceptive pill suppresses ovulation, there’s nothing to conceive with.

      Copper IUDs denature the head of the sperm, meaning they are no longer able to fertilise an egg.

      In both instances, there’s either a no egg, or no viable sperm. It’s no different to having sex while infertile (is that a crime too? Because if it is I’d like to see them try and stop me)

      I can see how the pill could end up on the chopping block, as it’s secondary method of action is to prevent the uterine lining thickening enough to support implantation of a fertilised egg, but copper IUDs prevent contraception, so life never begins, and thus nothing is “murdered”

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        Oh the answer is quite simple they will be “out” because they enable godless whores to have sex outside of marriage without consequences. And by consequences we mean forced conception and birth and with any luck the mutilation and/or death of the woman if anything goes wrong.

        As Jesus intended. Next question.

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          Ah thank you, I was using too much logic and failed to remember that misogynistic laws aren’t made from a position of reason.

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        Right, this is the logical way to look at it.

        Too bad these forced birth fanatics don’t give a shit about logic.

        It’s simply about control and punishment.

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    There. Right there. That’s your campaign rally call.

    “Contraception is next.”

    It sucks but fear will get everyone to the polls better than anything else. Please stop nursery rhymes and name calling bs.

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    These headlines keep saying fears as if it wasn’t said outright bye Alito and his friends. Threats. That’s the word they’re looking for. Threats that contraception could be next.

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      threats against the citizens. a handful of people that can be counted on one hand are willing and eager to cause the suffering of millions. the answer seems obvious to me.

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    From the party that brought us the hit “don’t take our guns”, comes their next single, “we’re coming for your condoms.”

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      Where in the constitution does it say:
      …the right of the people to keep and wear Condoms, shall not be infringed.

      Hmm?

      /s

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    If I (with consent) spray cum all over my wife, have I angered god the government with my seed? If so, who do I visit to obtain a permit for bukkake? Do each of us have to get a permit or can I put it under an llc? I don’t want to have to scoop it off and into her.

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      God forbid we just let immigrants in, they’ll steal our jobs. We need to make more Americans (white people) to take those jobs

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    To be fair, I am humbled because while I know IVF has been banned in a misguided attempt to ban abortions, I am team stop breeding, so I have enjoyed that self inflicted gunshot wound on the right.

    Makes me see how I’m opposite aligned on the topic, not just disagreeing with their point.

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        Oh, they already have that. It’s why so many of the abortion bans don’t have an exception for rape. Republicans cannot imagine passing on their genes any other way.

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        I mean… I agree.

        A sperm isn’t a human. An egg isn’t a human. An embryo isn’t a human.

        The laws are quite frankly assanine.

        Condoms, birth control, and safe abortions for all.

        I pause a bit at girls popping morning after pills like tic tacs. I don’t think they are meant for that. I think the aforementioned would serve those ladies better, but I won’t stand in their way.

        As a dude, I have a little but not a lot of say in all that.

        What I sure as shit know is that no man has the right to force a woman to incubate a child, and the way I word that highlights how I think the world is fucked, it’s overpopulated, our education and social services are quite frankly shit, and we don’t need children being brought into this dumpster fire.

        I hope for a day where that isn’t such a horrible idea, but that day isn’t today.

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          To be clear, I don’t think many ladies are using plan b flavored tic tacs as a form of birth control. If even just for the reason that it would be extremely costly compared to IUD/the shot/the pill. They also have some not amazing side effects.

          The main reason I point this out, is because it’s been a piece of misinformation floated by the right. Right up there with suggesting some women use abortion as their main form of birth control.

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            Don’t ask me about Trump v Biden v anything else.

            Then you won’t like my vote as much.

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                By casting a vote for a right wing genocidal Democrat, you are casting a vote for right wing genocidal maniacs to run this country. Congrats.

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          A sperm isn’t a human. An egg isn’t a human. An embryo isn’t a human.

          I agree with your point but I hate the way you phrased it. The things you mentioned aren’t people, but sperm, eggs, and embryos all belong to a specific species, so if a human sperm, human egg, and human embryo aren’t human, I don’t know what you’d call them to distinguish them from their counterparts from other species.

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            “Isn’t a life”?

            But we aren’t talking about cat IVF, so the distinction isn’t needed.

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              A human embryo is human regardless of whether we’re talking about other species or not. So is a human corpse. I’ve also seen people say an embryo, egg, etc. isn’t alive, which is patently false; they can die, so they’re alive. Nonhuman beings can’t be people, and nonliving things can’t be people, but being human and being alive aren’t the traits that matter, except as they relate to being a person.

              That’s why I’m suggesting “not a person” is the right language to use, because we’re talking about the concept of personhood, which is what we use to distinguish entities with rights from those without.

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                  I’m not sure why you felt the need to tell me your command of English is poor, but you do you.