"Alarm bells" ringing after abortion and IVF bans, with fears that contraception could be next - eviltoast
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    To be fair, I am humbled because while I know IVF has been banned in a misguided attempt to ban abortions, I am team stop breeding, so I have enjoyed that self inflicted gunshot wound on the right.

    Makes me see how I’m opposite aligned on the topic, not just disagreeing with their point.

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        Oh, they already have that. It’s why so many of the abortion bans don’t have an exception for rape. Republicans cannot imagine passing on their genes any other way.

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        I mean… I agree.

        A sperm isn’t a human. An egg isn’t a human. An embryo isn’t a human.

        The laws are quite frankly assanine.

        Condoms, birth control, and safe abortions for all.

        I pause a bit at girls popping morning after pills like tic tacs. I don’t think they are meant for that. I think the aforementioned would serve those ladies better, but I won’t stand in their way.

        As a dude, I have a little but not a lot of say in all that.

        What I sure as shit know is that no man has the right to force a woman to incubate a child, and the way I word that highlights how I think the world is fucked, it’s overpopulated, our education and social services are quite frankly shit, and we don’t need children being brought into this dumpster fire.

        I hope for a day where that isn’t such a horrible idea, but that day isn’t today.

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          To be clear, I don’t think many ladies are using plan b flavored tic tacs as a form of birth control. If even just for the reason that it would be extremely costly compared to IUD/the shot/the pill. They also have some not amazing side effects.

          The main reason I point this out, is because it’s been a piece of misinformation floated by the right. Right up there with suggesting some women use abortion as their main form of birth control.

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            Don’t ask me about Trump v Biden v anything else.

            Then you won’t like my vote as much.

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                By casting a vote for a right wing genocidal Democrat, you are casting a vote for right wing genocidal maniacs to run this country. Congrats.

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          A sperm isn’t a human. An egg isn’t a human. An embryo isn’t a human.

          I agree with your point but I hate the way you phrased it. The things you mentioned aren’t people, but sperm, eggs, and embryos all belong to a specific species, so if a human sperm, human egg, and human embryo aren’t human, I don’t know what you’d call them to distinguish them from their counterparts from other species.

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            “Isn’t a life”?

            But we aren’t talking about cat IVF, so the distinction isn’t needed.

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              A human embryo is human regardless of whether we’re talking about other species or not. So is a human corpse. I’ve also seen people say an embryo, egg, etc. isn’t alive, which is patently false; they can die, so they’re alive. Nonhuman beings can’t be people, and nonliving things can’t be people, but being human and being alive aren’t the traits that matter, except as they relate to being a person.

              That’s why I’m suggesting “not a person” is the right language to use, because we’re talking about the concept of personhood, which is what we use to distinguish entities with rights from those without.

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                  I’m not sure why you felt the need to tell me your command of English is poor, but you do you.