The game streaming service will make almost all of its users pay extra for extended access.

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    2 months ago

    Don’t pay for this shit. It’s another case of “you’ll own nothing and stop fucking complaining, peasant.”

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      I agree but we have barely seen anything of what cloud gaming will become. Platforms like Steam will introduce it too. Especially after the Steam Machine is turning out to be such a headache for them because of uncertain hardware prices. This will happen and I am very afraid a lot of users will welcome it with open arms. We could be witnessing the end of home computers right now.

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      This is one of those situations where you’re correct, but also being poopy about it. For people who don’t regularly play games or can’t afford a system, this is basically a modern blockbuster.

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        2 months ago

        Yeah, I’ll own that.

        The reason people can’t afford a system is because NVidia is screwing with the market in the name of AI. Before that they were doing the same in the name of crypto. They’re one of the big companies manipulating politics in their favour, against the better interest of the general populace. They’re standing alongside the companies that are pushing for mass-surveillance, they’re pushing for people to lose their jobs, and for all the other nefarious ways AI is being applied.

        But at least we can ignore our culpability and blame a computer when it decides to bomb a bus of brown school kids on the other side of the planet now, I guess.

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          2 months ago

          Zero disagreement with any of that. It’s a violent, brutal, racist, greedy, cyberpunk dystopia out there.

          Burn it all dowm. 🔥🇺🇸🔥

          • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca
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            2 months ago

            Where are all the renegade hackers sticking it to the man?

            Actually, now that I think about, big companies and governments are getting hacked all the time. Which is cool.

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        I’m not sure I entirely buy that. For cloud gaming to be any good at all, you need a high-speed, low-latency internet connection. Yes, nowadays having an internet connection is pretty much a requirement in the industrialised world and even someone of lesser means will probably have one good enough to watch streaming video at a decent enough quality (unless they live in the middle of nowhere), but that’s not good enough. So with the expensive internet connection and the monthly subscription, cloud gaming doesn’t strike me as a very economical.

        We’ve also been living in a period of diminishing returns when it comes to visual fidelity improving as hardware power does for a while now, so you can buy older, more affordable hardware and still have games look great on them. Meanwhile, I don’t think someone who insists on being able to see the surroundings accurately reflected in every window and puddle is going to accept the compression artifacts and latency of cloud gaming.

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      2 months ago

      The dollars come from charging us extra. Nvidia has been well known in the early days being premium compared to AMD graphics.

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        2 months ago

        Aye, this is premium pricing, not necessarily premium quality. The biggest hassle I have with my PC comes from NVidia and their bullshit.

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    And now the other shoe drops. We can see what kind of future these companies are shaping for us. Where you have to pay them a subscription fee in order to use premium hardware. While they slowly stop selling it to the public.

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    Next up is rentable GPUs with a subscription. You’ll eventually own nothing

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        2 months ago

        There is the Steamdeck OLED still, Steam Machine and Steamframes on the way early 2026. Also there is enough used machines in the second hand marketplace to tide everyone else over until the AI bubble pops.

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          I don’t think it will pop. I think it will continue to gobble up components for the next 5 years.

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            I think it will pop. But oh no! Now what do we do with all these data centers equipped with endless GPU power and RAM that we are building? Oh, I know! Cloud gaming! In fact let‘s buy up even more GPUs and RAM then rent the computing power to companies Epic Games, Valve, Apple, Nvidia. Look! Microsoft is already adding it to Gamepass+++! And what‘s that? Is that Google Stadia with a steel chair?! Better be quick folks!

            This is the future of mainstream gaming. I wish I was being sarcastic. It will be horrible.

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            It has to eventually, right? It’s just straight up not sustainable, especially in its current form. But I do think the hype will carry things along for a little bit. No doubt things are gonna be ugly in the meantime

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              I big game machine that gives money to rich people isn’t going to break until there literally isn’t any more money left.

              Take a look at countries with people starving in the streets while rich people live in gated compounds. Still think it “has to pop”?

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              I mean “eventually” yes but for the foreseeable future Trump could continue dumping your and my money into it indefinitely in the name of “national security”.

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      I paid $200 for ultimate for a year and got borderlands 4 included in it.

      You’d be challenged to build a decent gaming PC for 3 times that.

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          Let’s be generous and say $100. That’s 6 months with the most expensive tier.

          That should be plenty to get a gaming PC capable of playing latest AAA titles in 4k 60 fps and high settings.

          It’s one computer, Michael. What could it cost, 10 dollars?

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      for a few months

      I’d love to see what kind of gaming PC you’re going to build with $30.

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    I wonder where they got 100hr?

    I wonder if there’s some metric they’re going off of where the majority of the subscriber base only plays less than 100hrs and the “abusers” or whales play over the 100hr mark.

    100hr / 30 days is 3.3 hours a day. Which as a father of two… I’d be lucky to get that much in a day.

    100hr / 20 days(5 days a week) is 5 hours a day.

    100hr / 8 days (weekends only gaming) is 12.5 hours a day.

    None of these are outrageous and probably are the “average” user of the service.

    Now if you’re doing 8 or 12 hours a day for 30 days, that’s 240-360 hours a month. Which is pretty much gaming full time.

    I think 100 hours is a weird number to land on. I think 120 hours makes more sense (4 hours a day over 30 days).

    I do expect Nvidia to lower the hours over time. Expect to see 80 hours or 50 hours soon IMO.

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    I hit 112 hours in Black Ops 7 in two weeks.

    Genuinely eat shit, Nvidia.

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        I don’t listen to influencers who make their entire damn money out of yelling at people “QUIT HAVING FUN!!!” or “YOUR GAME IS SLOP!!!” (while they literally play a slop of a different flavor) or got burned out by CoD for playing for so long that they hate it now and spend 90% of their time trashing it, sorry. I play the game myself and decide if I want to buy it or not.

        Note that when Battlefield 6 launched I also put 100+ hours into it in like 2 weeks.

        But yes, I should definitely be given a time limit sometimes LOL

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    what are people even paying for, 100h per month isn’t that much if you have a fair amount of free time or would pause the games between doing other things. i’m expecting for posts about someone accidentally leaving it open and not being able to play for the rest of the month.

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      Its 3h per day. Enough for moderate user, but if you share with a family or just a hardcore gamer, you’ll run out

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        The Venn diagram of moderate users and GeForce subscribers has an overlap that’s about 2mm wide.

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          I’d think the main users of GeForce now are people who don’t play games that much and won’t spend that much money on gaming hardware.

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          I imagine hardcore gamers will not tolerate the input lag. When I think hardcore gamer, I think high-end PC with high refresh display

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      I don’t know if you’re joking or not. That’s 3h 20 min per day spent on gaming lol

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        What a sober reminder that most people on these platforms are either 20 years old or don’t have kids, jobs and responsibilities, lol.

        Regardless, fuck this enshittified subscription bullshit.

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        I know a lot of people who would consider 3 hours of gaming a day to be plenty, and I know a lot of people who buy Nvidia products. They are not the same people.

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          Ha, no. Many older gamers have the disposable income but not the time or motivation to spend hundreds of hours on gaming per month. I know what I’m talking about.

          Still never buying into that subscription bullshit.

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    you really don’t want to piss off your paying customers who have more than a hundred hours of free time a month to trash you online lol