More proof Rainbow Capitalism was a lie/ad campaign to take more money from queers.
I wish I could rub this in the face of every cishet who said Rainbow Capitalism was actual progress.
I’m a little bit confused on this: if you visit the policy page now it does (at least for me, in Europe) still list “Sex, Gender, or Sexual Orientation” as a protected group in that exact same list. Obviously slightly different as they’ve combined a couple of different groups in there where previously they were delineated: plus I wonder if this is potentially showing because I’m in a different region. Would be interested to see what someone in NA sees: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801939
EDIT: Nevermind, saw further in the thread
It’s almost impressive how quickly the whole of the business world capitulated to Donald Trump.
They didn’t capitulate. They were mostly faking it all along, friend. It made for good profit at the time and to get good Blackrock or Vanguard investment money. This is why despite putting rainbows in X, or FB, or YT, or LinkedIn profiles in the USA or in some Western countries, no company ever did that in any profile outside the West. It was all for show… and money. If they actually believe it they would have done so across the board. Yet they didn’t. They were just hoping most people wouldn’t notice. Many did. There was a meme RE: this floating around from years ago, too.
It’s almost like their support for these issues was never genuine to begin with.
Exactly. :-/
Was yours? Commenting online isn’t exactly fighting the good fight. Did you do anything to help shore up and defend anything.
These companies face legal action from the government that was elected. A government elected who won power by spreading their shitty ideology everywhere.
What are you doing? Why are you swinging on someone clearly with you?
Gosh, Melvin, what a hero you are.
Fuckin’ Melvin
MELVIN USED MORAL SUPERIORITY
BUT IT FAILED
IT HURT ITSELF IN ITS CONFUSION
You too
Read your comment back to yourself.
And did I do anything
I’m not talking about personal actions. I personally believe in equality and I wish I could do more about that even if there are all sorts of personal reasons that’s difficult for me.
Corporations don’t believe anything. They’re just profit optimizing machines. They were doing rainbow capitalism when they thought it would be more profitable and now that they think the opposite is more profitable, they’ll do that. It’s as simple as that and hoping corporations would be allies in a fight for equality was always based on a misunderstanding about power.
It’s not like corporations don’t have power that can resist government action. Look at how effectively they’ve evaded taxes and regulations. The big international ones can threaten to take their ball and leave if they don’t like a country’s policies. And that’s when they don’t just bribe politicians to change them.
The workers at those companies are people though. Labor organizing was always going to be necessary to build up power for change. Not saying it’s easy and I can’t fault someone for worrying about losing their job, but if resistance was going to happen anywhere that’s where it would be. Not in boardrooms or alone in a booth.
But there’s the difference. It’s one thing to have convictions but not the means or courage to act on them. It’s another thing to have power, but lack convictions beyond whatever is currently convenient. The former could overcome those obstacles given the right circumstances. The latter never will.
It’s too hard to change anything, but only if it’s progressive policies. Fascist policies can be implemented immediately.
Well. Being a bigoted asshole is easy.
Actually being inclusive and nice to people takes effort.
It’s too hard to change anything if one believes in laws, rules and the general idea of a fair justice. They don’t have this limitation.
This is what’s fucking shitty about this
Every company and every politician and every person who bends over so willingly IS THE PROBLEM
It’s like they announce their regime and these idiots roll out the red carpets immediately ready be the first company to suck the government off
If they all stood their ground, it would buy more time
They didn’t capitulate. They never fought. They just did what was the best shot at earning money and gaining ground at the time.
Don’t ever expect moral based behavior in capitalism or geopolitics.
Keep using uorigin for blocking as. Also use Firefox.
Don’tBe EvilSlavishly Follow the Fascist Government’s Lead
If you don’t use the strikeout, you can save millions of dollar on toner/ink from not printing out an extra word at a corpo that big. I think I deserve a promotion for that insight as well, well worth the extra money!
I am a building
WHO ARE YOU I AM FROM ANCIENT GREECE
They also allowed a pedo back on their platform
Dr D?
The one and only
Man this whole anticipatory compliance with the fascist regime shit is fucking awful
It’s like Roko’s Basilisk playing out in real time, except instead of building a malignant computer out of fear it’s accelerating a fascist takeover.
Welcome to how the world has always worked and always will. There’s gin to help wash the black pill down.
First reddit now youtube. Welcome to the tech broligarchy
We need a good federated youtube replacement so badly…
PeerTube isn’t bad, it just has no content
Yeah, and the platform is set up in a way that hinders onboarding and discoverability of what’s there (at least, compared to youtube’s approach…). These are all problems that prevent it from replacing YouTube. If you read Peertube’s official site they even say upfront that they’re not trying to be a YouTube replacement
It is kinda bad. Especially when it comes to finding content or getting noticed
It seems so difficult to use though
It’s always a question of money. It costs money to make quality content. YouTube has content because they share ad revenue to their content providers. That expands the more popular the content is because there are more ads displayed. That revenue lets the creators expand their capabilities with better gear and stage sets. Federated networks usually depend initially on volunteers and alternative ways of earning revenue for those instances besides ads.
It’s even more difficult since the content has to be stored somewhere, and needs to be streamed which requires storage and processing power, with the latter needing to be able to scale so the user experience doesn’t get bogged down by new people joining.
The entire revenue model of compensating the host and content creator does require a rethink, but it’s hard to see how that could be done without paywalling access to host, view, and/or both of the above.
Tbh money could be the initiative. So many content creators nowadays have platforms beside YouTube. Often even self hosted weboages. If a federated alternative would come up, they could just set up an own server and keep all the earnings.
This would somehow need to get started though. No idea how.
Kind of. I think more than that YouTube has the traffic and people go where traffic is. Especially content creators. Many content creators have patreon accounts or similar to help pay the bills. And I rarely watch YouTube without an ad blocker, which I would assume is becoming more common. Can’t exactly pay creators with revenue that isn’t there.
It’s time to boycott Google as well now hu? Already ditched their search engine and moved to kagi
Boycotts are performative stunts that feel good but don’t have impact on companies and even gets more attention ON those companies.
No really, this is a phenomenon that’s known. When people were protesting Blizzard, I swear to fucking god, people I knew for years who hadn’t played WoW since they were kids suddenly decided to reactivate their accounts because all the talk about blizzard “made them nostalgic” and despite being sympathetic to the people hurt by the company, they simply didn’t have the mental value-system to draw lines between those two things. Their own desires to escape and recapture youth was far, far stronger than the social messaging they honestly just felt was finger-wagging and parental scolding, so they rejected the idea of protesting without conscious thought.
And there are far, FAR more people like this than there are people with steadfast principles and discipline to stick to them. The depressing majority of people are not really thinking, they’re just going with the flow, agreeing with popular sentiment when it’s convenient, doing whatever they want when nobody is looking because capitalism has bled our axioms out.
If we put that much energy into volunteering with groups raising funds for primaries, getting to know our neighbors and forming communities, actually talking to people in our communities, we would abolish this fascist empire in a single election cycle. (Assuming we have elections again.)
edit: I firmly stand by my claim that you can change the world a lot better by being a good, active, social person who organizes your community. If we all kinda, embraced this as a passion and cared about people who aren’t in our discord servers, we wouldn’t need to try to boycott companies who won’t give two shits about you giving them more press.
Boycotts are not enough, but in combination with girlcotts they are very efficient.
I’ll see myself out.
Best reply I got here tbh.
They say when a boycott meets a girlcott, a baby cot is born…
Boycotts are performative stunts that feel good but don’t have impact on companies and even gets more attention ON those companies.
No they aren’t? People just haven’t actually been pissed off enough to actually wield the weapon of “ok, fine, now I will not buy ANYTHING from you”.
Boycotts most definitely work, Tesla’s stock is plummeting, and one of the major reasons is an aggressive and enthusiastic boycott of buying Telsas (also they suck).
This isn’t to say in any given situation a boycott is the best strategy to use, or that your organizing energy isn’t better spent elsewhere, but don’t dismiss boycotts when we are seeing one of the most effective high profile ones in recent memeory be VERY successful.
Strikes do a lot more damage to companies. I think a lot of people mix the two ideas up.
The last most successful boycotts were mostly ones you never heard of, and at least one you rather not hear of. We managed to get tuna companies to pretend to harm fewer dolphins in 1988. Before that is was things like the 1965 Delano Grape Strike and the 1955 Montgomery Bus Boycott. The most recent boycott that actually got a company to change its marketing and outreach was the Bud Lite/Dylan Mulvaney boycott by the anti-trans right.
If you think you can get enough people as worked up about an issue as the chuds were about a single commercial featuring someone they were scared of, then by all means let’s fire up all the engines and get boycotting. Otherwise, I would encourage people who work at these tech companies to start talking about unions and making change from the inside. But none of that does as much damage to a company as getting politicians installed who are already taking bribes from other companies. Yes this is a dark perspective, you’re welcome to disagree but in my nearly five decades on Earth this is just what I’ve seen over and over.
I don’t want to take away from the general thrust of your point, I just don’t think we have actually seen boycotts that people were actually fired up en masse to enforce.
I think up until right this very moment the general center of mass of society has been largely ok with most of what capitalism is, I think that is going to continue to drastically change, and we will see a lot more wildcat boycotts of companies that significantly hurt them.
That being said I agree that overly focusing on that as a strategy isn’t necessarily wise, but boycotts are definitely a weapon that can absolutely blow up the bridges of corporate 'Murica.
No, this boycott at least isn’t “working” to any serious degree. And teslas stock is negligibley effected by any the protest. It can all be so subjective, though, anyway.
Lol, no, i looked it up, this is not a “VERY” successful boycott. Not in the least.
Yeah, the Tesla boycott totally didn’t work…
You’re right. They didn’t.
The delulu is strong with this one.
While I hate Google, this seems like one of those much ados over nothing. They specifically mention ‘sex, gender, or sexual orientation’, which to most reasonable people would cover gender identity.
“Gender” means nothing without context. By a MAGAs definition of gender this policy doesn’t protect trans people, for example. We don’t know how this rule will be interpreted in practice. Even if you don’t consider the intent behind making this change, this is objectively a weaker guarantee of protection than what we had with “gender identity and expression”.
This is not a legal contract, it’s a general guideline for users about what is or isn’t acceptable. The intent and spirit of the terms are clear, the only question is whether Google will enforce them not. If the enforcement is crappy, like what Facebook is famous for, it doesn’t matter a damn what exact terminology they use in the guidelines.
You still think things are run by reasonable people?!
No, but I think most of the people on Lemmy should know better than that.
Looks at Hexbear, .ml, and to some extent Blahaj
Oh, who am I kidding.
Yeah its quite echo chambery here
What matters is how this affects enforcement.
It doesn’t. It’s not like this page gets used internally. They have their own internal guidelines for that.
Probably because no one is actually using any gender identity based bigotry any more. So they might as well just remove it, it saves space. /s
Look at the latest executive order on “protecting children”. They are planning for eugenics.
I’m not in favor of YouTube, but what exactly missing here?
It used to say gender expression and identity. If it doesn’t, that’s a deliberate decision that could cause enforcement calls like ‘well that’s not your REAL gender so this isn’t harassment’.
I mean… It’s already over-specified compared to others: “sex, gender or sexual orientation”. It’d be equally right to criticize religion for why don’t they write “belief, spiritualism, religion”, and to include identity, and expression.
They should just write “sex stuff”, and everyone is happy.
When an influential group of powerful people make hate speech a part of their standard rhetoric, is EXACTLY when you MUST block it on your platform, not a signal that it’s time to start letting it slide, you fucking pricks.
Pichai kissed the ring. He’s colluding with the person who tried to overturn the elections and install himself as a ruler.
All of the billionaires that were at the inauguration are in the same boat. I’m at a point where I believe the crimes of any of them should be tried and convicted with the punishments being doled out collectively to all colluders, but that’s me.
I’d be going for the death penalty from the prosecution side, since it seems like that is what we do now to people who cause one or more people to die, no matter how unethical the victim(s) were.
I wonder if Tim Cook is there too. It would make sense for him and Apple to resist this at least somehow but…
Tim Cook is just as fucking evil as the rest of them.
And people judged me for watching YouTube with uBlock Origin, or via NewPipe for eons.
Look who’s laughing now.
Good lord, the amount of idiots that white knighted me for using uBlock.
“WOULD U WORK FOR FREEEEE???”
Like fuck off no I wouldn’t. I also dont buy up every other company I see, turn it to shit and then try to force a political agenda through it, and guess who IS doing that using billions of dollars? Yep, Google.
Won’t someone think of the shareholders?
/s
Those aren’t opinions I would care about in the first place. Somebody thinks you should be watching ads? WTF?
LTT is very sure that following the FBIs recommendation for always using an adblocker is piracy for one example.
but google’s profits!!!
Please think about billionaires!
There’s some justification for this idea since the people who buy the products advertised by ads are the source of the money that goes to the producers of the videos.
But that’s not happening
YouTube on mobile is intolerable these days. NewPipe is the way for Android, though Google is in a constant battle to disable it.
youtube is too infested with ads, to make me disable ublock origin for my favorite channels. in anycase most of the channels become greedy pos overtime anyways. outside of pet one/animals/stem ones, ones that are just gossip or reaction or like mr beasts videos are no good.
