Four in five Canadians strongly oppose the idea of joining their neighbours to the south, and a majority, 78 per cent, are concerned with the rhetoric Trump keeps pushing.
So 20% of Canadians are traitors and/or idiots. Probably the FUCK TRUDEAU flags and bumper stickers crowd who complain about their first amendment rights.
There’s a baseline 20-30% of all polls taken over the world that is made up of hateful nutjobs and conspiracy theorists
There could be someone running for office who has figured out how to solve all the world’s problems for free, and that 20-30% will vehemently oppose them.
“Why should we solve the world’s problems for free? The rest of the world should pay us!”
I have long said that even in a Utopia you would have people unhappy about the way things were.
This is the premise that makes Iain M Banks’ Culture series of novels so compelling.
Even though it is a massive interstellar Type2 society that is “fully automated luxury communism” many people are going to be problematic, angsty, and childish. The result is an always interesting plot.
A more thorough exploration of someone living in a relative utopia but being a long streak of misery by nature is Delaney’s novel Triton. Main character is a jerk and you get to explore why, while extremely cool things are happening all around.
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On the positive side, I knew a Canadian couple where she was an evangelical Christian home-schooling their kids and he was a massive conspiracy theorist. They were both suspicious of vaccines and “mainstream medicine”, and he strongly disbelieved in the moon landings. 15 years ago there was no way to persuade them out of any of this. But over time, with the rise of the far right, QAnon, the antivax movement and MAGA, both of them realized they want nothing to do with those people or their insanity. She correctly identified the church as a bad influence and left it, she stopped preaching at people, they sent their kids to regular schools, they all got their vaccines, and he abandoned his conspiracy theories and now accepts that he was an idiot about the moon landings and laughs at his former self. Now you can have a perfectly normal conversation with them. So it is possible to travel in the other direction.
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I keep hoping people see the insanity and turn around like this but it never seems to happen. We’ll see if it happens this time.
But the technology to fake it clearly could? Idiots…
But what about the freedom to lose one’s life savings to an insurance company?
Yeah… These headlines are always so optimistic (probably because our media is owned by americans)
“Overwhelming support for canada. Nothing to see here folks!”
Uhhhh… 1/5 canadians are literal traitors to the nation. Stand on guard against these morons. Elbows up.
Polls generally are complete garbage.
If I become Supreme Leader of the US (it seems a lot more probable than it used to) I will make public polls illegal. If you want to poll people you need to do it in the privacy of your own home with the curtains drawn.
It’s needs to be 100% of Canadians. Those who don’t oppose us becoming the U.S. aren’t Canadian, and can kindly GTFO of this amazing country.
78% is considered almost a statistical impossibility for these kinds of things. This is the polling equivalent of “every last person”.
I’m hoping that the 20% includes mostly people who are just opposed (but not strongly). Still idiots, but not likely traitors.
I’m having a hard time finding the link to the poll itself…
But I suspect that the poll had distinct categories for “strongly oppose” and “oppose”.
So either the article is lumping the two responses together (which would be shitty because they explicitly say “strongly”) or it’s likely that the number of Canadians who are open to it is <20.
From previous polling I’ve seen, it was around 13% who were open to it. Not even saying they would, but merely open to the idea.
20% Russian bots/Elon bots
Can we stop posting this headline? Again and again and again?
It’s not news.
If a sizable portion of the population did want to do something stupid, that’d be news.
This is… It’s not even propaganda. It’s just a waste of our limited time and emotional capacity for idiocy.
We should poll how many americans are willing for their state to be the 11th canadian province.
Americans also overwhelmingly oppose Canada becoming 51st state
I for one support my state becoming part of Canada
Hell, I wish my own state wasn’t a US state.
Which state is that?
All of them I believe.
I miss boring liberal America where our absurd bullshit was just ours and not leaking out into the world.
Well No Shit. Why would anyone want to buy into the hot mess we’ve got going right now?
These articles and polls, framing trump’s deranged russo-imposed plans as a legit proposal, do not help at all.
They just normalize this fucking insane shit
Yeah, it’s frustrating to see anyone even bother spending time on this nonsense. It does just normalize the absolute insanity of what is going on - it’s more damaging to publish this poll than to ignore it altogether imo.
Reporting on this just helps him.
No shit, no one wants this. Why would we??
The guy down the street from me with a giant “Trump 2024” flag probably wants it. Fucking traitor.
Sounds like a great target for egging. Bonus points for being topical.
As a US-ian, I really wish you guys would keep reminding us that if you did join the US, you’d be a 51st state slightly larger and left of California.
The GOP wants nothing to do with Canada. They cringe every time they think about ya’ll voting in our elections.
Fr - who, with the minimum amount of decency, would want to be part of this?
What sane person would want to be under the control of the Orange Turd.
Sovereign country not keen on being annexed by psycho neighbour, more news at 6.
Surprised its only 78% that oppose. What the hell are the 22% smoking?
They’re all from Alberta
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Meanwhile Puerto Rico sitting over there like what about us!? We’re supposed to be the 51st state!
would they take us as the 11th province?
Sorry, you’re already the 47th oblast.
No
How about just Oregon, Washington, and California? Please?
No
Develop a public healthcare system and we’ll talk.
Hell. Don’t take the whole thing. Just move the boarder to the 45th parallel as opposed to the 49th.
45 and flight?
I mean. Imo that’s only fair. Sure they are getting one of the world’s larger economics (WA state + Portland), they are also getting Montana, Idaho, and a good chunk of the Dakota’s…
No shit!
Do 22% of Canadians live in Alberta?
The reasons for opposing becoming the 51st state were loss of Canadian identity, culture and sovereignty at 81 per cent, the difference in health care systems at 68 per cent, concerns over safety with the differences in gun laws and the legal system at 60 per cent, and concern over U.S. politics and governance just below with 58 per cent.
Fellow canucks looking out for our material conditions.
There shouldn’t have been a poll in the first place
