You heard it here first: Bashar Assad might be dead - eviltoast

Flight path of a plane that took off from Damascus shorty after news broke that Assad left the city towards unknown destination, which might have been Latakia on Syrian coast which is still under SAA control as of now. Terrain in place where flightradar stopped tracking that plane isn’t especially suited for emergency landing

Shortly after crash Syrian Army Command informs officers about fall of the regime https://xcancel.com/Alhadath_Brk/status/1865587913817305454#m

update: it’s not spoofed transponder data or controlled landing, locals reported plane crash in the area. rumors so far, but dawn will break soon in Syria and we’ll know https://xcancel.com/Schizointel/status/1865593800678130081#m

clarification: there’s some chance that Assad went out of Damascus before on other, private jet, so it’s not sure and it’s all conjecture on unproven information

update 2: there’s a claim by Russian media that Assad is in Moscow, so he would have to flee on some earlier plane, but no photos as of now. Still, looked mildly credible at the time

  • Milk_Sheikh@lemm.eeEnglish
    72·
    20 days ago

    You know when NCD has actual writeups and citations shit is getting real. Getting Wagner coup vibes, what a time to be alive where we can glimpse into the sausage of geopolitics being made in real time.

  • Lupus@feddit.orgEnglish
    661·
    20 days ago

    Honestly guys, it’s not the first time I got breaking world news from this community and I am disappointed, I thought this was non-credible?

  • Minarble@aussie.zoneEnglish
    62·
    20 days ago

    Can we speed run the Russsian collapse as well?

    It’s going to shit me if Putin falls on the 22nd Jan so the orange boofhead can claim the credit.

      • Minarble@aussie.zoneEnglish
        30·
        20 days ago

        Probably both he usually takes both sides on every issue at some point.

        At least the balkanisation and collapse of Russia will be a simple thing for such a stable genius to manage.

    • Delphia@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      19 days ago

      My conspiracy theory is that Trump will “Talk tough” to Putin and “tell him” to back off and take only “minor” concessions to end the war. He gets to claim that he ended it, look how strong and diplomatic he can be. Putin will spin it differently back home, nobody will buy it but nobody will care because the sanctions will be lifted and money will start flowing.

      The Ukraine wont get NATO admission, the US will block it but they will be a whole lot better off than if Trump just removed all US support and the bombing will stop so they wont like it, but the alternative is losing the whole country.

  • Lambda@lemmy.caEnglish
    40·
    20 days ago

    One of the rare cases where I hear of a death and check wikipedia to still see the word “is”. I wonder how long confirmation will take.

      • Lupus@feddit.orgEnglish
        14·
        20 days ago

        German Wikipedia already has past tense and a small paragraph about Assad leaving the country for an unknown location.

        • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          16·
          20 days ago

          Is it sourced properly? Because killing people on wikipedia without sources isn’t helping wikipedia’s credibility.

          • Gurfaild@feddit.orgEnglish
            11·
            20 days ago

            At least the current version of the article uses past tense when referring to his presidency but doesn’t claim he’s dead.

      • BombOmOm@lemmy.worldEnglish
        20·
        20 days ago

        Yea, it’s amazing how fast this can go down. Been F5ing Live UA map every few hours the last few days and almost every time there were notable changes.

        This also cements Russia’s loss of their only notable Mediterranean port.

    • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.deOPMEnglish
      46·
      20 days ago

      that would be pretty stupid so it’s definitely an option

      we can guess that 1. assad was on that plane, and 2. it did something that looked like a bad malfunction and 3. there are rumors of plane crash in the area. maybe it was some stupid reason like mechanical malfunction, or maybe friendly fire from russian S300 at Tartus, or maybe unfriendly fire from whatever SAM HTS now has. or something else

        • Valmond@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          20 days ago

          Unlikely but not impossible IMO.

          If you want revenge so much you take out a whole plane, you’d done it earlier. But again, maybe there was a lot of panic so surveillance was not that good, and feeling the imminent collaps could have pushed someone over the limit. But I wonder what one man can do in a situation like that.

          So very unlikely until more information I guess.

    • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      18·
      20 days ago

      The plane flew over opposition controlled territory in Homs, and then it started losing altitude very fast. I think the Russians didn’t have the chance of doing anything funny this time.

  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.caEnglish
    171·
    19 days ago

    Good example of why you don’t trust internet “journalism.”

    It’s just a rumour until you get confirmation from the AP. People tend to think the mainstream media is hiding things, but it’s usually down to them not publishing unconfirmed rumours while the internet will. And here’s an example of why that is. Many of these things wind up being false. It’s better to hear about what actually happened two days later than spend time forming opinions about what might have happened right now.

    • nuke@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
      14·
      19 days ago

      It’s better to hear about what actually happened two days later than spend time forming opinions about what might have happened right now

      Lmao do you know where you are??? This is NCD, I have recklessly violent opinions over shit that only exists in my head.

    • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.deOPMEnglish
      4·
      19 days ago

      you don’t have to get AP article for every claim, but it helps. if you can get geolocated footage, that’s still a bit better than just rumors, many of these maps work this way. this time a few things were missing

    • jimbolauski@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      18 days ago

      You’re giving journalists way to much credit. The Pulitzer Prize was named after a man who started the Spanish American war by making shit up.