UHC, Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield, Caresource and more are removing or redirecting their about us pages.
If you’re worried that your CEO will be murdered, that might be an indicator that you have some deep problems as a company. If you’re all worried, that may be an indicator that your entire industry is a problem.
It’s really not that hard to run an insurance company without making people want to murder you
Honestly… I’m not sure that it is. The entire concept of an “insurance company” (particularly health insurance) is inherently predatory.
For profit insurance companies are inherently predatory. But so are for profit hospitals and drug companies.
So yeah at this point, it might be impossible to run a non profit insurance company with the consolidation of hospital ownership by the few big hospitals and Catholic Church, and the vertical monopolies of the insurance, drug and pharmacies.
Have the government run it (if we ever again have a sane government).
Feels like we’ll be lucky if Medicare makes it through the next term.
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Remember, one of the provisions of the ACA was requiring insurance companies to ensure at least 90% of expenditure was directly towards covering care, meaning insurance companies are legally permitted an incredible up to 10% profit margin. For context most retailers have profit margins of 1-2%
Don’t forget that the ACA also stipulated they had to send overage checks out to members if they spent more on marketing, bonuses, etc than on services. Getting refund checks from Blue Cross/Blue Shield at the end of the year because they spent too much money on everything but healthcare wasn’t exactly reassuring.
Even worse, they are colluding with big pharma to raise prices, because would you rather get a 10% profit off of $100 or $10000?
The entire concept of an “insurance company” (particularly health insurance) is inherently predatory.
They made sense when the only insurance was the kind that paid out if you sent a ship to India and it sank on the journey.
Most other countries have figured out how to prevent people from wanting to murder health insurance CEOs…
Then again there seems to be a few things that other countries have figured out, but American exceptionalism won’t consider trying.
Don’t forget that that a CEO legally has to maximize profits. Otherwise the shareholders can sue.
Edit: apparently this is incorrect. It is what they’re hired to do though, so not a big difference.
Yea dummy… that is the “reality” we want changed.
To you it’s immutable, to us it’s not.The economy isn’t driven by the laws of the universe, it’s people, we can change it any time and have chosen not to. So now CEOs are dying.
Wanna change it now? No?
Alright cool. Maybe this is the new normal then.
People have a limit.I don’t understand what you’re trying to say
Don’t forget that that a CEO legally has to maximize profits.
That depends on the corporate charter.
While I think these are scum, people want to murder people over too little cheese on their burger.
OK, but do do you think this particular case is similar to “too little cheese on a burger”?
No, and I never said that. But thinking that you can run a big business and nobody would be “kill you” mad at you is very optimistic. People can be incredibly irrational, and the more customers you have the higher the odds of a crazy. And you only need one crazy to get lucky.
If I was a CEO of a big company, I’d want some security 24/7, even if I made Saint Gaben look horrible in comparison, because you never know when some certifiable in Bumfuckistan decides I’ve destroyed his peepee with mind rays or something, and decides the only logical thing is to kill me.
However, with this guy everyone wants him dead, and I really hope some of the chucklefucks running such companies start thinking if that really is the legacy they want to leave behind.
They will now create fake CEO profiles (with machine learning capability) available only on Zoom due to safety concerns.
May be one day, they will also replace the CEO by an AI agent. That won’t be worst than today anyway…
Fairly sure today’s version of “AI” could easily replace CEOs; nothing of value would be lost.
Isn’t this the plot of Deus Ex: Human Revolution? Been years so maybe I’m forgetting… But I remember the main media/propaganda ending up being run by an AI…
May be… it’s been a while for me too. I remember loving the ambiance and music of this game… Good idea when the weather is bad (if it will work under linux).
Yeah, great game. Got a lot of flack for not being the same as the original, but I really enjoyed it.
Of course they won’t see it that way.
What do you call one dead CEO? a good start.
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Oh boy sounds like they’re afraid of copycat killers.
Why - are they doing something that should make them afraid?
I think mass shootings in the US are a little passe. This on the other hand…
Targeted killings of evil people get me hard.
Same same… I can’t be the only one with a bit of a crush on this masked hero. What we can see is sexy af, though I would never be able to describe him to a sketch artist.
What’s the old expression?
If you’ve got nothing to hide/done nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about.
That’s why I stroll down the street nude. Everyone else is a juicier target than me 😎 why you wearing clothes huh?! Kinda sus.
The two could be combined. Any shooting of three or more executives would be a mass shooting of executives. By a mysterious masked man that no one can identify.
What do you mean? They are just trying to put food on the table for their families.
/s in case that isn’t blatantly obvious
I watched a documentary on oil execs a while ago (can’t remember the name, sorry :( ). Someone asked an exec why he wasn’t giving 50 of the 60 billion dollars he owned to charity or government programs and he literally said “but how am I going to feed my family” without a shred of irony.
You were being funny, but the billionaire class actually believes this.
It’s because despite having oodles of money they never learned math. A family of 5 could eat 3 meals a day $100 per plate for 60 years for 32.85 million. They have just as little comprehension of their vast wealth as we do. Billionaires should not exist.
Feed my family? What about feeding my coke habit?
What the hell are they eating, inexplicably stable trans-uranium elements?
How many lives does 1 yearly bonus check save?
They shouldn’t let this become common. Hiding who Runs the company just makes them even MORE faceless and disconnected from humanity. Maybe focus on not shafting literally the entire population for money and shit coverage.
I would expect only the wrong lessons will be learnt. But I already saw a headline about another insurance company reverting some stupid policy, so maybe correct ones will be learnt, too.
Not worth my time to check who it was (I think BCBS), but they were going to deny the totality of the anesthesia line item for a surgery if the allotted time (and therefore the expected amount of anesthesia used) exceeded the original estimate.
You’re correct.
If they’re publicly traded, then leadership is public record. Someone could always publish the info for them in a more helpful way than This
If they’re publicly traded, then leadership is public record
For now.
There’s a lot of CEOs and wannabe CEOs about to enter government.
Yeah, if I lived off blood money in a country with insanely high gun ownership, I would also start acting like it.
One more dead CEO and the conseevatives will start worrying about gun control.
It’s actually nuts. Visiting /r/conservative and while there are some boot lickers by and large they are in agreement that “fuck that guy”.
It’s wild.
I’m genuinely impressed. I might even risk the blow to my mental health to see for myself.
Edit: yeah, holy shit, there’s a couple people going “jeez you guys are nasty. I didn’t like him either but still” and the rest are treating the shooter like a national hero.
Class struggles are something we can all get behind
Class is the root struggle. All other divisions distract those not at the top.
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Only on select moments. Don’t forget how many unions met with trump and praised him only to have their face eaten by the leopard
I wish we would all actually get behind that. I still hear people say that Elon Musk is the smartest man alive.
Musk demanded the twitter devs print out their code for review to keep their jobs. So many trees died that day for nothing, and so much toner money was burned. Who is that effing stupid? People were moving multiple stacks of paper as tall as they were down the halls.
He tried to force PayPal to use Windows servers in its data center, when everyone else was well along in adopting Linux. They kicked him out over that brainfart.
All of us except our politicians.
Wow you really did it? went to check out the conservative threads? you poor bastard. You need some counseling and a nuclear accident level decontamination shower like in that silkwood movie.
I’m going in
I do the same, peruse r/republican. It gives me a perspective… of how completely out of touch with reality they really are. I read a headline, chuckle like Ralph Wiggum in the bus, and read about 5 posts before my brain starts to melt, rinse and repeat for a few mins then go to saner pastures
Maybe it’s too difficult for them, either through stupidity or for the smarter ones a cognitive dissonance or hiss, to draw the lines between conservative legislative policy and the corporate cronyism hurting the average person. But when they see a very immediate and direct connection, they can support it. Also their guns are supposed to be there to take down tyrants. We don’t have kings anymore, but the is the next closest thing.
This is it. The red party abuses the economic hardship they themselves create (and profit off) and blame it on blue/immigrants/gays/browns. They have no incentive to solve economic problems because it’s what keeps them in power.
Edit: blue isn’t any better by the way, they just advertise themselves as the lesser evil. They actually need the greater evil or they’d be out of office in a heartbeat as well.
This reminds me of the girl who had her face ripped off by a bear. When she was asked what the worst part of the experience was, she said that it was dealing with the health insurance companies.
I can imagine… “are you sure you really need that face? Have you tried masks? Have you been in talks with the bear about alternative solutions? In any case, our resident doctor have decided that this doesn’t constitute a health issue and we don’t cover cosmetic surgery”
Reminds me a bit of Eyes Without a Face (1960).
“I’m sorry, we don’t currently have a code for ‘face intentionally ripped off by black bear’, so your claim was auto-denied.“
“I’m sorry, since you can still breathe and eat, your appeal of our initial denial was rejected, as the facial reconstructive procedures are considered ‘cosmetic’ in this case.”
“I’m sorry, your second level appeal of our denial was rejected because, in the year and a half it took to get this far, we changed the laws in our favor and are no longer required to cover the procedures and care required for your condition. It’s also nearly impossible to successfully sue us because we have infinitely more money than you and have congress in our pocket. Thank you for paying your ever-increasing premiums for absolutely minimal coverage.”
So it seems that Cody Johnson had a point, when he said, that Kamala should try to unite Americans against the rich instead of going after the immigrants like Trump.
People forget that conservatives hate this sort of thing too. That’s why the ““outsider”” candidate won!
Eh, that sub always needed 2-5 business days to get their agenda after every major event. They’ll fall in line soon enough.
Maybe that’s what it will take.
Apparently shooting school children repeatedly isn’t enough to move that needle.
archive.org and linked in.
archive.today too; name and shame.
Don’t paint a target on archive.org.
you know where we can paint a target?
LinkedIn, duh.
The CEOs
Let’s hope they live in fear. Let’s hope they are never comfortable, even in their mansions and yachts.
Now that the CEOs have all been herded into their gated communities, it would be a good time to lock those gates from the outside.
Good thing there isn’t some kind of machine that lets you go way back in time to see the pages before they were removed
Good thing someone who can plan their attack and track their target for days or weeks, someone with absolutely nothing to lose and a single-minded purpose, would absolutely give up on their plans if they can’t find a public picture of a company’s CEO on the first page they check.
Also the fucked up facebook for companies exists
Holy shit is LinkedIn a terrifying source for osint. Even without sales navigator it’s a gold mine, and with it you can find just about anything about anyone on there.
please refrain from capitalising such despicable names :)
Fair point, auto correct forced my hand
Hiding your website link isn’t going to stop someone your lack of humanity has pushed to the point of actually shooting you.
And removing the tiniest bit of visible accountability you give doesn’t seem like a particularly good idea either.
If this is truly a pissed off customer I’d be curious to see their appeals and grievances trail.
No, but I imagine it might make them easier to catch. If they have to go digging to find a person’s name rather than just going to the company’s website.
Smells like guilt to me
Remember what these people tell us - “you don’t need privacy if you have nothing to hide”
They forgot two names: Ms. Wayback Machine and Mr. Archive Today.
Publicly traded companies would have all this listed in official filings, anyway.
Right, but I imagine if you limit the sources to find this info, you make it easier to track down people who may have searched for it prior to an incident like this.
Not if more people go looking for that info now just because it’s been taken away.
People on the internet are like cats, as soon as you close a door the cat wants to be on the other side. CEO’s try to hide and people want to know who they are more than ever.
Maybe they wouldn’t be so scared if they hadn’t lived such horrifically unethical lives.
And LinkedIn
Yeah, but there are some problems with LinkedIn: content can be edited, profiles can be hibernated or deleted, not to mention the need of being logged in with a LinkedIn account in order to visit a profile (something that will be snitched to the profile being visited, especially if such profile pays for LinkedIn Premium, they get to see everyone who visited them).
Deletion and edition are improbable (although not impossible) to happen on Wayback Machine and Archive Today (and anybody can visit the archive, no account is needed).
Then i guess we’ve all got to visit the exec pages on linked in so the real guy becomes a drop in the ocean
Senor sec has a big list
Quick! To LinkedIn!
Or even, the government itself
Quick! To LinkedIn!
theres a sentence I’d never expected to ever read.
You mean the sec?
Not nearly enough.
Yet.
We killed one CEO, which resulted in one change to their company.
They stopped automatically denying people anesthetic for surgeries because a CEO was shot.
It works, it was just proven that indiscriminate attacks against the wealthy result in them making concessions.
Now we just need to kill one CEO for every small improvement we want to see.
We have a lot of work ahead of us as a country
not enough in the long run, there must be something that prevents this shit from coming back if we manage to fix or improve it in anyway. Otherwise they will just bide their time and we are back at the same point but with even less chances to do anything about it.
Yeah because somebody as motivated as the shooter in Manhattan will totally be deterred by removing the “Our Team” pages from your website.
Talk about focusing on the wrong thing. How about instead of worrying about how to hide the names of your executives you instead have a meeting where you decide to be an ethical company that balances the needs of the shareholder with the needs of your customers.
Novel idea, I know.
That would just encourage people to shoot more CEOs.
Executive thoughts… By Dick Richass
