If you don't want EVERYONE to participate in your community, then you should really make it private. - eviltoast

I just got permanently banned from a community for making a single harmless remark on a single post that was right there in the main feed. It’s not a community I’m super active in so it’s not like devastating, but it is annoying

If your precious little community is full of so many delicate sensitive people who can’t even be reminded that another viewpoint even exists, then you should really protect them by defederating and having everyone join your private website

The mod has literally removed like 75% of the comments and banned everyone lol

I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t have time to read every rule for every community that pops up when I’m in view all

  • JonsJava@lemmy.world
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    I defended @beaver@lemmy.ca when a comment of theirs was reported.

    I was just given context on this. Looking at their comments in that light, I have decided to ban them from !unpopularopinion@lemmy.world for all their bad faith arguments. Banning people for “bad faith” voting is bullshit. Coming here to defend that horrible action will not be tolerated.

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      Thank you and good riddance to @beaver@lemmy.ca, when you look at the amount of subs she is modding, it’s quite worrying. It makes me wonder if she does anything else with her time.

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    We’re talking about u/beaver aren’t we?

    One of the things I disliked about Reddit was the self righteous power mods that turned the site in to an echo chamber.

    If you can’t handle a counter point that’s been made in good faith, then get off of the soapbox.

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    I got banned for downvoting. Kind of hard to take people seriously when they’re so sensitive to criticism that the equivalent of a thumbs down emoji gets you banned.

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      Pretty sure I just got banned from c/vegan because I downvoted “wrong”. Haven’t interacted in any other way, so not sure what else it could be. Also recently got banned from c/imageai for downvoting “too much”? This is a weird trend that seems like a bad path for Lemmy to go down if it’s starting to become the norm.

      *Also, what’s up with not being able to block a community you’re banned from? They don’t want you there but you’re forced to view their content? That makes no sense.

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        Also, what’s up with not being able to block a community you’re banned from?

        I’d like a setting that automatically hides communities where I can’t participate. If I have to be a member of some club, hit some threshold of something, whatever; I just don’t want to see it, then.

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        I see a lot of comments about a particular vegan community. Sounds like people here need something like c/chillVegans where you don’t get kicked out unless you’re a total menace.

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              Feel free, based on this comment section, we’d all appreciate it.

              I don’t personally want to sort through that gore, which is a pretty common attitude for vegans. I suspect that’s why there aren’t more general spaces for chill vegans.

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            If the vegans there can’t take a joke, they aren’t very chill. However, being intentionally offensive and rude shouldn’t be tolerated, even if it’s a chill place.

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              Pretend that it’s any other earnestly held belief. I wouldn’t expect a chill Catholic community to be down with cannibalism jokes, I’d just expect them not to engage in purity tests or call non-Christians heathens. I’d expect that a chill Hindu community would remove “Holy cow!” comments, but they probably wouldn’t remove people for admitting they eat chicken or ban non-Hindus.

              I would expect a chill vegan community not to remove comments from people who eat meat or to call omnivores “bloodmouths,” but jokes like “how do you spot a vegan?” or “I’m going to eat twice as much meat tonight to make up for you” would probably still get removed. I get that the second one seems harsh, but it’s a system of ethics for vegans, so it isn’t a joking matter for them.

              Plus, all four of those jokes are way, way overdone.

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        Also, what’s up with not being able to block a community you’re banned from?

        Wait, really? I’m gonna have to check on that. Curious if that’s an API limitation or a frontend bug. What frontend did you use? Lemmy-UI?

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            Thanks. I’ll add that to my test cases for the UI I work with. I don’t think I’ve ever tried to block a community the test user was banned from, so I’m curious if it’s an API restriction or the way the UI handles it. Will prob also submit a bug once I figure out which.

            Edit: That looks like the community options that have the “block community” button are all hidden when you’re banned rather than the “block” functionality being restricted. I’m almost positive now that it’s just a UI bug. Will still add it to my test cases, though.

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          I just checked and using the default Lemmy UI (on desktop) you totally can block communities you’re banned from. I’m pretty sure what we’re looking at must be some kind of UI/front end bug.

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            Thanks for the additional info. I’m gonna set up test cases in the UI I work with and try to confirm (and handle it better if need be). A UI bug was my assumption as well.

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      Yeah same. I don’t downvote indescriminately, but a post had factory farmed fish : 0 not factory farmed. Like no shit. Whatever, that supermod was going off the deep end with their comments lately.

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      Is “agreement” a rule? That’s too incongruous to believe – only because loyalty requirements are a far right thing, not the rules for a group typically skewing left.

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    I never care about these posts unless you share what you posted.

    Too Many times the “it was just a little joke bro” turns out they called someone’s dog the N word or something and understand why they got banned.

    “What it wasn’t like I said it about a person, just a ***** dog”

    So, have fun OP, but making this post makes me doubt you more than them if you’re not going to recount any details at all.

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    Seriously these mods ban you for literally nothing. I think they’re worse on here than they ever were on Reddit. Bunch of fucking children I swear to God.

    edit Oh hey now I’m banned from c/vegan too. I wasn’t even talking about them. They’re even worse I guess.

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        Oohh let’s try an experiment. I have never been to c/vegan even though my stepson and his wife are vegan so I guess I might have a reason to … sorta.

        Anyway here goes. … Hey c/vegan, the one mod over there is a completely douchebag and should just stop being a right cunt. Please ban me until they fuck off.

        How do you find out if your banned?

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        I have no idea when I was banned from there. I assume it was this post, cuz I don’t think I’ve ever posted there before. I just noticed when I tried to upvote a thread earlier it wouldn’t let me so I assume this is where it came from.

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          Was it c/vegan because there is apparently a mod there who has gone off the deep end and is banning anyone who downvotes let alone comments. They are hermetically sealing the c/vegan echo bunker.

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    I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t have time to read every rule for every community that pops up when I’m in view all

    This is exactly what made subreddits turn into an indistinguishable mush once they start reaching the front page. A way to not have your community show up in All would be nice, or to make posts read-only unless you’re subscribed.

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      Absolutely agreed. Unlike reddit, there’s nothing between “private” and “everyone”. Reddit had a feature that subs could avoid the front page no matter how popular a post got, but Lemmy doesn’t have that, so every post shows up on everyone’s all.

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    You’re gonna see that a lot on Lemmy unless you fall in line and don’t say anything they wanna call a “dog whistle”.

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      Man… Mods just make shit up when they ban mostly.

      Reviewing modlog is very telling. Reddit mod culture is svery strong here but at least now we have reciepts.

      News and politics subs are just DNC shill ops at this point. Block and don’t give them engagement.

      I understand that we are pro kamala here but a shill op is a shill op. I expect people here to know better.

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        You’d have loved to s see the mod log for r/Artisanvideos. So many people thought it was the ideal place to plug their shit with high traffic and low post count. I was not polite about banning them. Especially stupid goddamn Gruyere cheese. I had to blacklist their YouTube channel.

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    They are echo bunkers. They only want comments and identity validating upvotes that whole throatedly support the orthodoxy of the echo bunker but they want to spread their extremist message by commenting on and brigading posts that they don’t like in other communities to try to bully, shame, and harass others into adopting their extremist quasi-religion and join their echo bunker.

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      ☝️what this person said. Sums uo entire “culture”

      Tankies going around in pacts copy pasting same fucking shiti arguments and links with a bridgade for upvotes and downvotes.

      News and politics subs same thing.

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    Vegans will talk mad shit and then get so mad when their thread reaches nonvegan feeds.

    Can’t stand the heat, which is why they eat salad.

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    I’ve never come across a friendly vegan community. I’m not exactly looking for one but the ones that make themselves known tend to have extreme takes. There’s nothing wrong being vegan but their online community sure feels they’re going about it the wrong way, being overly dismissive and defensive rather than open and helpful.

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      It can depend on how one interacts with the community as those who are open-minded are often welcomed and taught the ethical ways of doing things.

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              People with speciesist tendencies are not allowed on the community however if they have an open mind sure!

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                So why have a community on a federated instance? Why ban people for passive participation?

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                  People need to learn about the vegan subculture. Why should a community shut itself down because others cant handle different ideas.

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    Was it on the vegan community? I bet it was on the vegan community.

    Their echo chambers are lined with the same material the tankies use in their communities.

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    I feel like the Internet doesn’t have that fuzzy but between public and private spaces like real life does. Some people want their public space to be like a Marxist book store on a side street to a Main/High Street. Sure, people can come in to read the literature and talk about the books there. However, if someone comes in wanting to discuss the merits of Ayn Rand, they are probably going to be kicked out.

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    Some people get the tiniest shred of a hint of a… concept of a plan… of power and it turns them into tiny tinpot tyrants. Sometimes they’re on HOAs, sometimes they’re middle management, and sometimes they moderate communities or forums online. You can’t reason with them, and it’s out of your ability to destroy them, so you’re better off just shrugging your shoulders, giving them the finger, and then doing something else.

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    Just leave the rabid vegans alone. They are showing you who they are. Believe them and don’t waste your time trying to be rational with them.

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    Nah, a ton of people say the same thing.

    They’re wrong, and so are the immediate bans (the bans are asshole moves, but you don’t just jump into a C/ without checking the vibe a little), but it’s too common a complaint to call unpopular.