Basically a straight up admition that they’re both meaningless though terminating cliches

Another straw man. You guys are on a roll.

What is cliché is resorting to strawman arguments and whataboutism/bothsidesism when your dogmatic incantations don’t win the day. They are the refuge of the weak. Attempting to devalue the ideas is a transparent effort to reduce the impact of your weakness being labelled, It’s the same as white supremacists loudly calling out Godwin’s Law when they are rightly labelled as Nazis or Zionists labelling legitimate criticism of the actions of the state of Israel antisematism. Mike Godwin himself said, “By all means, compare these assholes to Nazis. Again and again. I’m with you.”

The modern whataboutism is the bothsidesism.

You know what the absolutely weakest whataboutism is? Both sides!

You’re on a roll. Do a Gish Gallop next! I love Gish Gallops!

Definitely. I hope the full truth comes out.

“Both sides!”

Trump is now claiming that Biden and Obama created the Epstein files. The only reason for him to do this is that the files aren’t damaging to Democrats and confirm that Trump is a serial pedophile rapist.

“I think that these people — and I don’t know, for whatever reason, there could be reasons — but I don’t think they’re telling us the truth about Epstein,” podcaster Brandon Tatum told the assembled crowd at the Tampa Convention Center.

The reason is that the Glorious Leader is a pedophile and well know serial sexual harasser and rapist and releasing the Epstein files would conform what everyone other than the MAGAzi fascist bootlickers already know.

Concentration camp.

Concentration camp.

I mean if, we’re being real, it was also a whataboutism. “What about what the democrats did?”

Get better.

Sorry your straw man didn’t work.

https://nypost.com/2025/07/04/us-news/camp-mystic-attended-by-daughters-of-texas-political-elite-for-decades/

Yes, that’s what I said except I said it with three words.

Florida concentration camp.

The biggest difference between FEMA’s maps and those created by the private sector, is that FEMA does not map rainfall or flash flooding,…

I think that the biggest difference is the fact that private companies are more difficult for wealthy Americans to influence to protect profits.

Can you point to the word “only” in my comment?

He probably didn’t specifically choose that fund. He most likely had someone who managed his portfolio. My guy added oil and gas and pipelines and pharma. When I reviewed my holdings I asked him to divest of those things. I still hold pharma but it’s all small research companies, not the huge global players. Most of my stocks are technology.