If you could split yourself into a copy of yourself, how many copies would you make to satisfy all your wishes? - eviltoast

You can regularly sync your memories with your copies (either one way or both ways)

  • Call me Lenny/Leni@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    All I’d need is one. She’d do doppelgänger work and keep me company sentimentally as well as fulfill, ahem, physical needs.

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      Interesting idea but I would utterly hate a person like me.

      The old saying about “you hate in others what reminds you of yourself” feels like it was written for me!

      I really need someone to contrast my personality. I’d kick clone out within minutes.

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          'Please Sir, tell me why
          My life’s so pitiful
          But the future’s so bright?

          Well I’d look ahead
          But it burns my retinas’

          - Pitchshifter

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        Your clone is only a copy of you at first, the more it experiences, the more different it becomes. That’s going to cause issues eventually. They may even start working against you.

        The solution is The Prestige.

        The clone only exists long enough to complete a task or fulfill a purpose, but then one of us (and we don’t know which) is gonna get dropped through a trap door and drowned when we’re done.

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            Yeah but the person pressing the button isn’t cloning themselves, and the meeseeks just wanna help and then die. Your clone is you, and may start getting…ideas if they hang around too long.

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            I was going to make a joke about how meeseeks want to die so it isn’t that bad, but some people may be into that.

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          I disagree. The comment says you can Sync up memories. That means those memories and experiences would happen to both people once Synced.

          If there was no Syncing then I fully agree.

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        Everyone has horrific qualities about them, but everyone has redeeming qualities too. I’m sure you and your clone would fight, but I can imagine you would get a lot done too

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          9 months ago

          One me gets basically nothing done. I feel like a second me is just gonna be used to play all the coop games my friends don’t play and we’re gonna achieve even less somehow.

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        9 months ago

        Tangentially related, but I often think about if everyone on Earth were just like me, what kind of place would it be?

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    It would be very ill advised, but SO MANY. Enough to organize them. There’s a mall nearby that’s slowly shutting down, it’s like 99% empty now, and there are homeless encampments all outside it being hassled by cops. Instead of giving it to them, it’s gonna wind up bulldozed and turned into rich people condos. I’d make enough clones to occupy it and turn it into adhoc co-op housing!

    …And obviously like all the boning and other stuff one does with clones as well lol.

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    One clone so that I can be a stay-at-home dad without losing my income. Finally finish grad school and fix up the house. Show my kid the world when they get old enough to appreciate it. Get a second job once they start school - something to get me outside, or working with people face-to-face. That would be amazing.

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    Going dark with it: How much are organs worth on the black market?

    Keeping it light: like 4 or 5 maybe, as long as there is no degradation in capabilities I think I could feasibly let 1 do my job, then the rest and myself could pursue other intellectual endeavors. I would also always have a full D&D group and be able to play the multiplayer games I have always wanted to that never had the interest of my friends.

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      DnD issue: memory sync.

      You’re just yourself playing yourself, and all copies know what all copies are thinking.

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        That’s not a malfunction, it’s a feature.

        I always play wildly different characters in my campaigns and like to mix things up. The other players knowing what I am thinking just means that I don’t have to communicate my hair brained schemes.

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      If you would be willing to sell the organs of your clones, it stands to reason that your clones would be willing to sell yours. I think you would likely be harvested first and then they would devolve into a game of organ harvesting Highlander as they all turned on each other.

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    A billion copies to lead a communist revolution. Any more than that would probably be unsustainable globally in the short term while the existing capitalist systems are being dismantled and replaced.

    Or 3 or 4 clone friends to help out with daily life.

    Both are cool. The latter is probably easier and what my copies could actually manage.

    Edit: Actually, the ability to sync memories is so ridiculously overpowered that one could probably achieve pretty much anything with their copies.

    It also seems like its usefulness would scale up exponentially the more copies you make, so I’ll go with the first one.

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      9 months ago

      I mean, with that ability you are basically a hivemind. And if playing Stellaris has taught me anything, it is that more pops are always good.

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    Of it’s naruto style, I would make a 100 of me, have them all find jobs for a year or two, then collapse them all back and never have to work again aince I now saved for 100+ years.

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    So what happens with my copy once I’m done with it?

    Does it just continue to exist?

    Do I need to kill it before it figures out that there can be only one, and kill me first?

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        Hell, I’m sad and depressed too when I’m alone, but I manage to get the laundry done and keep the lights on.

        You are mistaking not wanting to torture another human being and subject them to a miserable existence, with depression. I think you might also be confusing being sad and lonely with depression.

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    Imagine being the copy that has to work while one does the family and one is traveling. The ethics of making a copy of myself that is for all purposes a slave would be really weird. Enslaving copies of myself, what a concept. Oh, also one needs to be kept on away for organ needs as I age or get hurt and one with a master copy in case the main “I” dies unexpectedly. yikes

    • grue@lemmy.world
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      The second season of Invincible touches on this with the Mauler Twins (which aren’t actually twins, but instead one guy who clones himself and copies over his brain so there is always two of him around):

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      Usually when they make a clone they can’t tell which of them is the original and which is the copy (even though they ought to be able to know by remembering which medical bed the original was lying in, but never mind that), so they work together as equals. However, one time they make a copy after having suffered a disfiguring injury, so they know which one is the original and he lords it over the copy until the copy gets fed up and kills him. The copy sums it up as “sometimes things are the way they are for a good fucking reason.”

    • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
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      That’s assuming your copies have individualism. Where I feel my copies would believe in the greater good. Almost all know the role they play to make my true version incredible.

      And knowing myself well, one would absolutely rebel to have empathy for the “worker” versions, and find a middle ground. Maybe 4-day weekends and vacations once a year.

      • UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.works
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        Maybe your awareness splits with each copy, so you go from an “I” to a “we.” No such thing as a “master” copy then, just different organs of the same meta entity

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          That’s how I see it! It’s very Buddhist.

          A lot of folks in the other comments see it as they’re the “Person Prime”, and all the clones are some lesser being. Which I don’t see it that way.