I’m no contact with my conservative relatives. My family is shattered over politics and will never have a large family gathering ever again.
Jokes on you! I cut everyone off and went full NC! 🫶🏻✌🏼
I welcome anyone to come to the good side and encourage the healthy policies that work and people want them when asked about them.
My uncle already had a nervous breakdown talking to me while collecting my rent.
Oh well.
Going to buy a bottle of Blue Curacao, and learn some delicious blue cocktails.
Offer a Blue Wave to all my Uncles :)
malicious. delicious.
I love it.
One that sounds amazing to me is Electric Iced Tea. It’s basically a long island, but replacing triple sec with the blue Curacao and cola with sprite or something.
ooo i wasn’t planning on drinking tonight. that sounds good
That’s a great suggestion, I’ve made them before. Friggen delicious, and great at their job!
I thought they are too sweet, but they do look really cool. Put in less sprite or swap for a spicy ginger ale.
Get some malibu, white rum and pineapple juice. It’s called a blue Hawaiian.
That’s a good start, but it would be even better to think of some ‘woke’ themed twist on it that makes it into a Blue Wave. I’m drawing a blank on what that twist would be, but I’m sure someone who’s better at cocktails and/or wordplay than me could think of something really good. My first thought was replacing white rum with a diverse mix of rum tones, but that would kind mess up the blue colour.
Make it vegan? Serve with vegan cocktail sausages?
In the uk - GBeebies - the British equivalent of fox News said that the Negroni was a woke drink. In the US
In the US you’ve got the pride bud light controversy
make it a blue sour, shake it with an egg white, then get enough different nerds that you cover the whole rainbow and garnish the egg white foam with a sprinkle of them
Ooh that sounds like it slaps
Oh, also, if you want to really go hard with this, blue curacao, orange vodka (or rum, or liqueur), white creme de cacao, with heavy whipping cream.
Mix the blue curacao 2/3 to 1/3 with the orange liquor of your choice. Preferably shaken with ice. Fill a shot glass 2/3, or a tumbler 3/4. Now take the creme de cacao and mix it with the heavy cream separately. Then carefully pour that in the glass over the back of a spoon. It’ll taste like a dreamsicle but look like cum in a glass of mouthwash.
look like cum in a glass of mouthwash.
Always good to bring a bit of your daily routine with you on holidays to lessen cultural whiplash.
My dentist always asks how my teeth are so perfect. I tell him I use mouthwash 5-6 times a day, but I don’t tell him why.
The username checks out
Interesting username considering where the comment landed lol
Gotta wash your mouth out after gargling that. Nana won’t kiss her good boy with THAT taste on his lips.
Oh hell yea, I’m definitely making these this weekend, that sounds so tasty
Thanks for the recipe!
No problem! I hope they work out well for ya!
Oh it’s so good! They’ll be mad but asking for more.
Take them to a party in the Blue Oyster bar.
Who the fuck still does holidays with their MAGA relatives?
Well…
I get what you’re saying, I really doi also thinknits a really bad idea.
I’ve been seeing people banishing “the cazies” for like 3 decades now from Internet fora and I’ve been saying from the start that this will only breed bigger and bladder crazies. When with “us”, we can ground them and avoid them going full retard. When we banish them, they will join together in some other place where they can make the rules themselves, breeding much worse crazies. The same goes IRL.
I’ve been seeing exactly this I’ve rthe past decades, crazies joining together and becoming a much bigger,such worse problem to handle.
Again, ibget your point but I’d rather have a crazy on a figurative leash where they can be controlled and stopped from iharming themselves or others, than crazies running wild
The many people that can’t afford living out of their parents’ basement
Can’t afford moving out of it?
Yeah, outside of their parents’ basement
To “live out of” can mean to live in, that’s what confused them
That is a much more difficult situation…
That’s the weird thing. There’s millions of people who would never hurt anybody up close and personal, but happy to keep hurting people far away by their choices. The same disconnect often applies to the negative consequences that hit them.
In those cases, if they’re family, and you’re used to seeing them, you can find yourself having superficially friendly interactions, they will be genuinely happy to see you, etc… And they will vote for death camps without a single pang of conscience because it seems like the normal thing they’ve always done.
I don’t think they’re the majority, but they’re certainly numerous enough to be the primary enablers of a fascist takeover.
The ‘white moderate’
I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.”
Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
—Dr. Martin Luther King Jr
Yep… and the only way we de-normalize it is to quit passively allowing it.
Most healthy members of society dude 😭
Yes, healthy members of society spend time with their pedophile supporting extending family. Right.
I am not weak enough to give up on someone. Every meeting is a chance to educate them
Right? When my extended family gets together there are like 40 of us. I might try to avoid the ones that are MAGA, or at least avoid talking politics with them, but I’m not gonna refuse to go to Christmas or Thanksgiving just because my chuddy uncle is going to be there. I’ll just take a walk with the other queer cousins and get a little toasted before dinner
Must be nice for only some of them to be MAGA.
When they’re all MAGA, though, sometimes it’s best to just not go.
I’ll just take a walk with the other queer cousins and get a little toasted before dinner
Aww the cousin walk <3
My family extended to just 1st cousins is more than 80 people. Every single last one full maga Christo-fascists. Not worth being around.
Do you do the same thing with the ones that are child molesters? What you’re describing is identical to why most child molesters are family members and the molestation is actually known about.
Of course not? What kind of question is that? Being a child molester and being a conservative are two wildly different things
One fucks children the other just supports people that fuck children.
Correct, one molests children and the other protects child molestors. Only sometimes are they one and the same.
Edit: Imagine downvoting this, you people are excrutiatingly forgiving of the people who would just as easily see you in chains.
What you describe about making nice with them even though they are arguably awful people is absolutely no different. Fucking hold them accountable. Tell them get their racist fucking asses out of your home. Tell them to fuck off and die mad. Quit enabling them. Your “logic” is exactly why most child molesters are family members and family friends.
Look, I’m no fan of conservatives, but you have to recognize that someone molesting children is very very different from someone holding conservative politics.
Do you really expect me to go through life shouting at and refusing to speak with anyone with politics to the right of mine? Life is full of compromises and picking your battles. I would absolutely refuse to be in the same room with a pedophile relative, because that’s a big deal worth fighting over. My aunt who thinks ivermectin works? Not worth the trouble.
Most people, even repeat Trump voters, are pretty tuned out of politics. So I don’t feel like it’s my solemn duty to grill everyone over their voting patterns, assume their vote defines them as a person, and only associate with the purest of heart.
but you have to recognize that someone molesting children is very very different from someone holding conservative politics.
I’m not talking about them. I’m talking about you needing to hold them accountable. In that, there is zero difference.
Do you really expect me to go through life shouting at and refusing to speak with anyone with politics to the right of mine?
I expect you to hold people accountable; especially family members. That actually starts with speaking with them and not avoiding the politics because that makes you both feel uncomfortable. However, when they decide that they are racist then, yeah, tell them to grow up or fuck off and die. Quit enabling them.
Most people, even repeat Trump voters, are pretty tuned out of politics.
Then tune them the fuck in. Quit letting the skate by playing nice with them at holiday dinners. Fuck holiday dinners; holding them accountable is far more important.
Well now that you mention it there was that one great Uncle. Never knew the full details, but yeah kinda the same deal. Just came with the extended family.
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Yeah, super healthy to go hang out with people who want people like you bashished from society because of who you want to love 🙄
How “healthy” it is to attend holiday gatherings with your family depends entirely on your family’s chud ratio.
Not conservative, not “republican”: MAGA.
My MAGA relatives are some of the worst human beings I’ve met. Hateful, loud, dumb bigots that seem unable to act like a decent human being for more than a few minutes at a time. I’ve heard the shit they’ve let slip out and they meant (and mean) every word.
They’re not welcome in my home and I am sure as shit am not wasting my time on them.
Conservative, republican, and MAGA are interchangeable. You don’t get to claim to be one without the others. They’re all the same at this point.
There are degrees of shitbaggery. There are people that can be redeemed without too much pain.
Nobody is an angel: everyone has harmful views and does bad things – it’s just a question quantity and quality. As much as it sucks the reality is if we set the bar too high we’re going to spend life alone … and risk being a hypocrite as well.
So we tolerate peoples failings as we hope they tolerate ours. We grow and redeem ourselves by learning of our flaws and blind spots from other people.
That being said there’s a line where its not worth it. Everyone has to decide where that is for themselves.
Our families invite process is fairly simple. If you can’t last family time during holiday without talking politics, you aren’t invited. I think that’s a fairly healthy ask. I think only one person was excluded from family planning/gathering due to it, but thankfully the feeling was mutual because they couldn’t isolate their political side from their actual personality and as such didn’t want to be in an environment where they couldn’t talk politics anyway.
Ah… “don’t ask; don’t tell”. Everything is fine even if Uncle Steve is diddling your daughter (or son) while everyone else is watching football after the family feast.
Different scenario so therefore different rules. It may surprise some people on Lemmy but, not everyone that has a different political orientation is molesting children or some other extremity. Shocker I know.
There’s a time and a place for politics for either side. Family time isn’t one. We don’t want to be associated with people who can’t respect that. Regardless of political orientation.
Did I say slightly right or are you moving the goal posts? Yeah, you’re moving the goal posts. Be accountable. Hold others accountable - especially family.
Chill, you’re getting aggressive. I see you discussing in other areas, but please chill.
Acknowledged and apologies…
you initiated the reply with a goalpost move what did you expect it to be ignored? Either way I think you are trolling me so I’m disengaging.
For context on their claim(which I had edited prior to their comment as it didn’t really matter to the post): My original reply stated that just because someone is slightly right doesn’t mean they molest kids. It had no place in the comment as it doesn’t matter the reason: Politics have zero place at family time.
you initiated the reply with a goalpost move
I did no such thing. I said hold your fucking family accountable. Not doing so just because it “ruins thanksgiving dinner” is a piss-poor excuse. It’s this playing nice with family members that allows them to continue comfortably being racists and/or pedophiles. Quit enabling them.
Politics have zero place at family time.
This is the most important time. When the fuck else are you going to do it? Jesus fucking christ, hold your family accountable for not being awful people. If you fail to do that then you, too, are an awful person. Maybe you didn’t know that before, but now you do and you have no further excuse.
That’s not healthy. That’s enabling.
After Election Day 2024 I completely cut my republican father out of my life. He never was maga, but he was celebrating trimp’s win (ironically by listening to a Woodie Guthrie cd I got him). I did not speak to him for almost a year and a half, then in April I found out he was going to group therapy. I am unsure of the exact nature of the GT but one of his friend’s that is in the GT said it is to redeem them.
We still do not have the close relationship that we used to have, and I doubt we ever will again.
The crazy thing is he used to be a long haired hippie fighting for freedoms and protecting the Vietnam war.
It sucks when that has to happen, but good on you.
That’s not x that’s y 😭
I get dragged with. Really debating putting my foot down on the Mega church visit this Christmas though. Such a vile place.
I want to see my sister and my niece. Other family shows up too, kinda hard to control that
a small edible (or giant bongrip) beforehand should do the trick
I was so well-behaved these midterms I brought up these elections to no one
But boy did they bring them up to me…
I was supposed to finally enjoy a short little moment of peace and instead I’ve slept a total of 8 hours in the past two days…
If I’m lucky they’ll finally shut the fuck up about “Somalians”* and talk about football instead, even though I don’t really care about football.
*(I understand “Somalians” isn’t a what they’re called, but the racists in my family never bothered to learn that.)
That’s my experience. They just shut the fuck and don’t want to talk about it when they lose, but when they were winning (just barely) it was all they could ever speak about.
Put the pronouns back on the Christmas card aunt Karen!
Who wants to bet if Epstein files will still remain unreleased?
It’s theatre.
They could leak it right now.
They don’t even have to have the actual files in hand. Just share what they’ve seen with their top secret clearance. One press conference.
They’d be heroes to every non-billionaire in the USA, and Democrats would hold office for the next 40 years uninterrupted.
I wonder why they don’t? Hmmm. It’s a puzzler
sadly theyll probably never do that because they like the money they get from their friends in the files
Revenge for holiday 2024.
Just deserts!
Just deserts and just desserts!
Lol, I had right the first time…then was like, wait. Gah!!
Well, you often have dessert at holiday gatherings, so it works!
Doood…u confused tf outta me.
It was deserts!!! Lol
The correct terminology is “just deserts.”
The best way to be better than they are is to be better than they are.
More fireworks and party with explosion you mean? nice
HAPPY HOLIDAYS MOTHERFUCKERS!
FREEDOM!
why waste your breath on them
