I’ll start it off:
- Windows is a perfectly fine OS, as long as you use Enterprise or Server (Home and Pro are crap)
- Self driving cars are the future since the US won’t fully embrace mass transit
AI. I’m not so much AI, as I am anti corporate. Fuck Google openAI, Anththropic, MS whatever.
But the tech itself I’ve found useful to first draft all sorts of stuff: emails, letters, docker compose files, turning nothing into something I can tweak. I’ve had it project manage a little herb garden. I’ve pushed corospondance I’ve received into it to sanity check myself for tone and things not said. All on the free tier of chatgpt and gemini
I accept what it gives me as imperfect, some times good enough is good enough, often ill tweak its output, sanity check it, etc.
The virtue signalling here is exhausting and constant. It doesn’t matter what you post or where, 1/4 of the comments will be trying to convince you that you are horrible for whatever it is you posted about, and how the obvious moral thing would be to run off into the woods and eat berries. Everyone is boycotting everything. No nuance ever.
Example: You donated time at a homeless shelter and want to provide a link to others to help donate? The page takes paypal, don’t you understand how horrible that is, and you’re horrible for suggesting they pay in paypal!
I think it scares a lot of people away from Lemmy, and frankly from our political causes as well. People spend so much time making everyone else feel terrible for even moderately trying that they just give up, the other side is usually pretty willing to accept them in and say “no no, you aren’t horrible, look you’re a good person”. With Lemmy and Reddit they feel annoyed as hell here and not welcome, go back to Reddit where they get a warm hug in the thread. With politics they’ll all share in how the other side is crazy. It feels good to be included, and Lemmy is very exclusive.
For a bunch of nerds who claim to have been picked on a lot in high school, we sure do push people away quite a bit.
To turn the example around, a better way to rephrase the response would be “Hey very cool! Is there a way to pay without paypal?”
For a bunch of nerds who claim to have been picked on a lot in high school, we sure do push people away quite a bit.
You’d like to think the pain of being excluded would lead to people be more accepting, but it usually just pushes them to form their own groups so that they can exclude others too.
That’s been my experience. The other day we had a post that made fun of “sportsball” and very few seemed to get the irony of it. Sure I made that joke for a while when I was younger, then I realized that by doing it I was doing the same thing to those who like sports that they did to me in high school with video games.
It’s not some equalizing or justice, it’s lowering yourself to their level. What’s worse is that at least most of them did it in high school when that stuff mattered. It’s sad doing it now as adults when it takes nothing to just be accepting of everyone’s interests.
As D N’D Greg once put it, fantasy football is still fantasy.
It’s like I don’t even know you anymore.
It’s a hard and unintuitive lesson to learn. I used to mock and deride things I disagree with or dislike, but I try to do that less now. I believe it’s better and more interesting to be open and accepting of new things, even if they seem silly or wrong.
It feels like an easy win to define yourself by what you’re “against”, but I think that’s just the tribalism part of my brain talking. It just closes you off to people and calcifies your worldview
That’s the mature take. Define yourself not by what you are against but what you are for, and be open and welcoming as people express what they enjoy as well.
I make sports ball jokes. I am also contemplating getting season tickets to my “home team”.
Pedagogy of the Oppressed and all that.
Overall the discourse is very angry and agressive. I get that people are stressed, scared, angry and frustrated, but the number of times people go from 0-60 in 1 second over a political difference is wild. And I’m not talking about “full on Trump supporter” or “ICE is saving America” differences. Like saying “I hate that that Democrat said that he doean’t support trans women in sports but his opponent is literally a Nazi…” will get you dragged to hell. Hell, I’ve seen Canadians snapping at people in political threads, so I know everyone is well past their breaking point.
I don’t fuck with comments much on other sites/apps so IDK if this is a Lemme problem or an everyone everywhere problem.
I have the “oh so you hate waffles” meme saved for use around here.
Yes, so many people here are desperate to make sure you know how shiny their halos are.
It’s a big shadow over my head for every time I want to post. Makes me always reread what I drafted. Then at the end if there’s a remote, chance it can bring in an argument, I just delete the draft and not post.
I used to do that too. Then I realised that people will find even the tiniest thing to argue with me about anyway. No amount of qualifiers, “I think”, mincing words, or careful phrasing will save you. If someone’s got a bone to pick, they’ll find one somehow.
But once you realise that, it’s nothing to do with what you wrote at all, it’s their fault not yours, they were going to be jerks regardless; it makes it less annoying. Fuck it, just hit post. Throw your unadulterated raw opinion out into the void. The people who appreciate it won’t tell you.
Then when the losers crawl out of the woodwork and inevitably strawman your comment beyond recognition and make you out to be stupid or evil; just ignore them. Not even a downvote interaction. BITR (block, ignore, tag, report), and move on with your life.
That’s a big shame.
I usually stick to more low stress low “intellectual” posts to comment on. Like this post for example I usually wouldn’t comment because it has a higher chance of getting barbed comments. I definitely do not comment in political posts lol.
We need a lot more sane, non-extremist posters and commentors on the Threadiverse. Maybe try posting and blocking the assholes? The rest of us will appreciate it! :D
I had that for a bit as well, now I mostly post to the communities where I know the mods will act if needed.
Very true.
Big Tech is enforcing ID verification more and more aggressive, some people will take whichever non-compliant networks they will find.
Hey, I was picked on in middle school, because I started taking adderall in high school and got better. You should frel bad assuming we all got picked on in high school! /s
I’m a bit out of the loop, what’s horrible about PayPal? I’ve been using them for banking for some years now and they’ve always been pretty great to me.
They’ve been known to close accounts and confiscate the funds of people unilaterally with no course for appeal, including vulnerable groups.
That’s fucked. Guess I’ll be removing that from my roster.
Is there any less skummy online pay option? I like not having to use my card.
Uh. Probably, but it’s not something I have a lot of experience with. I mostly just use CCs.
Nintendo is nowhere near the worst thing in the video game industry right now. Not saying I agree with everything they do, but compared to pretty much every other AAA? Their games actually feel like complete products on day 1, they don’t fire half their employees as soon as a game releases, they don’t try to get kids hooked on gambling, and they don’t fund genocide.
You’re not wrong, but it’s a sad state of affairs that Nintendo is one of the better AAA game companies
Was about to write about this too. Nintendo can and should definitely be criticized where appropriate, but I’m so annoyed by people who feel the need to vent their hate under every post mentioning Nintendo in any way.
Something that also never gets mentioned is that while much of the games industry treats their employees like garbage, Nintendo is considered one of the best employers in Japan. They treat their employees right, offering good work-life balance, job security, benefits etc, in a culture where that’s definitely not the norm.
Not arguing your points, but I find it funny that there’s a post about Nintendo owning a porn video right above this post.
I think as long as nintendo has a strong stance against piracy, they can cure cancer and lemmy would still be against them.
Being pro-piracy and hating AI for “stealing” everything is very “It’s okay when WE do it.”
Yeah it’s insane how consistently hypocritical people will be about IP law in general
I kept seeing that the other day when Anthropic banned reverse-engineering games with Claude.
“Oh? They can steal from independent creators but we can’t? Boycott!!”
That one bothers me so much! I don’t give a shit about the copyright on material, I care that my county has been in water rationing for 3 years and a strong wind in a state known for wind can take the power down for a week. We can’t figure out basic community utilities and you’re expecting us to be ok with server farm bigger than my entire neighborhood that uses exponential more of those crippled utilities? Fuck off.
I agree with the hivemind’s general direction, but I really hate its absolutist thinking style, which dictates:
- Every issue has exactly two sides: the Right side and the Wrong side, and they’re extreme opposites.
- Nuances don’t exist; if you think they do you’re just shilling for the Wrong Side.
- Moral and ethical purity are expected of everyone, zero tolerance, no allowance for human weakness - and if you don’t agree then obviously you would forgive Hitler for “human weakness”.
- Everybody is the worst person they’ve ever been. If you cured cancer and brought about world peace, you’d still be a piece of shit for Liking a misogynistic tweet in 2015, and so is anyone who hasn’t taken you off their Friend list and spat on you.
Reminds of that tone time on reddit i got a mod warning about being misogynistic for not liking Jane Austen novels… it extends to even your preferences in media.
Also depends on individual mods, some of whom seem to interpret the job as being the thought police rather than helping the community run smoothly and be a good experience.
Yes the lack of subtly in the thinking here can be really jarring sometimes
I really really just want to look at pictures of cats without people bringing up Trump or Musk or Epstein. Yes politics are important and that’s why there are political communities, but even Anne Frank wrote about other stuff in her diary sometimes.
There’s a way to block posts with certain key words, if you go to your settings
That Lemmy, as a network, should be highly exclusive and free of ‘normies’. I can understand someone wanting their own instance to be highly insular and controlled, but if the point of Lemmy is to build a web of community-driven sites which will pull people away from the corporatocratic current iteration, we can’t do that if we’re making people feel unwelcome if they don’t conform to our own little narrow wedge of views.
There are definitely some absolutely wild political takes on Lemmy, even outside of .ml, which leave me feeling some people are completely off their rockers.
There are definitely some absolutely wild political takes on Lemmy, even outside of .ml, which leave me feeling some people are completely off their rockers.
Not just political in my experience.
It’s just tiring…part of the reason I think comment sections are usually a ghost town aside from lack of used base.
In active threads there are always a handful of (upvoted) irrational takes seemingly formulated with pure emotion and mostly rage. Any counterpoint is descended upon by equally irrational and hostile responses.
You start to realize that you’re likely arguing with teenagers or people otherwise lacking life experiences…
rage is the primary currency of the internet these days. it’s what motivates people to interact, and repeatedly interact.
You ever notice how users who are irrationally angry with you will comment at you multiple times? yeah…
but if the point of Lemmy is to build a web of community-driven sites which will pull people away from the corporatocratic current iteration, we can’t do that if we’re making people feel unwelcome if they don’t conform to our own little narrow wedge of view
It does sound counter intuitive. I think people on lemmy want those websites to die, but without the traffic coming here.
I don’t have much to add, but I just want to say I appreciate that you used ‘corporatocratic’ instead of ‘corporatist’. Mixing those up is a pet peeve of mine.
Heh, thank you!
I admit I’m not entirely sure how actual corporatism would work in a social media site, but it’s definitely not rule by a corporation - which is what is going on there.
The mindset that treats AI like the bubonic plague. It’s not something that should be avoided. If used properly, it can be a great asset for people.
AI is just a tool, and you shouldn’t blame it for humans’ misuse of it. Instead, we should treat it like other tools: as something to use for appropriate situations/tasks.
The “if used properly” is the hard part: AI is good for simple tasks, like organizing and labeling things. However, as of 2026, AI is not sufficient for tasks involving creativity like art and music. It doesn’t capture that human aspect yet (It could in the future).
TL:DR: My point is that AI isn’t inherently bad, like many people make it out to be. Instead, it’s how humans use it that can make it bad.
I fully agree with you.
I stated something similar a week ago or so and had one dude going nuts. I mean nuts;
- Spamming “fuck you” towards me.
- Saying I was bad at coding (he had no idea that I didn’t even care because, in fact I can’t code and never cared to learn).
- Saying my opinion does not matter (as if his opinion was superior lol).
No idea who the guy was, skimmed the comments and immediately blocked him. I thank Lemmy every day for having a infinite blocklist possibility.
I’m fairly Anti-AI, but some people here definitely have a ridiculously absolutist stance towards it, which seems to be getting more common. Like if AI was used to fix a bug in otherwise human-written code for a videogame? That game is now slop and needs to be shunned apparently. If cancer was cured with the help of AI, I’m sure that medicine would be slop too and they’d refuse it like JWs refuse whole blood transfusions.
but some people here definitely have a ridiculously absolutist stance towards it
I was talking to a guy on here who was comparing AI to nuclear bombs.
I think people blame AI for incompetent management, which is like blaming a saw for bad carpentry. AI doesn’t force employees to use it whether it’s appropriate or not - managers do that. AI isn’t building massive datacenters regardless of impact - executives are doing that.
I agree with this.
I use AI at work, it has significantly improved my productivity, it does the shit mundane stuff (like transferring information into new corporate templates) leaving me to concentrate on the actual job I need to do.
I hate AI for reasons™ but the constant whining about AI makes me think it’s probably not that bad. I might be 14yo contrarian.
AI is not sufficient for tasks involving creativity like art and music. It doesn’t capture that human aspect yet (It could in the future).
There’s a dismissive take on AI creating art that “AI can never create a truly great work of art or tell a truly compelling story.” I worry less about that, since those are really subjective stances to take on a given work; one person’s La Dolce Vita is another’s Dude, Where’s My Car? and vice versa.
What I want us to worry about is: What are we going to do to protect human dignity, even if there’s no profit motive in it? Sure, maybe an AI screenwriter could someday write a movie that people would want to see, but why should that mean that human screenwriters should have to starve even more than they currently do? If we can automate a large percentage of all human labor, does that mean that we’re just going to render most humans unemployable and not change anything else, because that’s what the invisible hand demands? Or are we going to have a serious conversation about how human dignity has value, in and of itself, and totally separate from our ability to increase GDP?
Sure… but I’d like for them to make some sort of amends for stealing all the content on the internet to make it?
And I’d like content made by AI to have that declared so consumers can support human artists and avoid grifters.
It’s interesting to see the collision of academic mindsets with the proliferation of AI. I largely agree with you: if something uses public data it should be offered as a public good.
It makes sense to me why it happened, though. Growing up, I always had the expectation that the stuff I put on the Internet would be there forever and basically used in ways that I wouldn’t expect. I didn’t feel the need to tell people what they could and could not learn from my posts and whatever tiny amount of learning I impart on a person feels perfectly analogous to whatever tiny amount of weight updates I’ll provide to a model.
Academia felt very similar to me. We put out papers because we found the subjects interesting. We didn’t make money from them (public funding) and people would build things on what we learned. It felt like a good model. Everyone shares the knowledge.
My biggest beef with AI isn’t that they trained on the Internet, it’s that they trained on the Internet and kept the result for themselves.
Well since US elections wrapped up yesterday, I’ll go with lemmy.world having the memory of a bacterium and thinking everything is gonna magically get better because dems have control of congress.
Are you saying that the Democrats, who in the past did nothing to rectify the wrongs of Trump, will do nothing to rectify the wrongs of Trump? I’m shocked! Shocked I tell you!
No you don’t understand, everything is fine now. The right folks are in power, we can go back to brunch.
My experience has been different. Lemmy thinks nothing will get done because they think Dems are still corrupt. But the difference is these progressives got elected even by not taking PAC money. The progressive Dems are also much more aggressive than their neoliberal colleagues. So, I think more things will get done than under the establishment Democrats. I think Americans are still just getting used to progressive Democrats because they haven’t had one in decades since the New Deal.
AI is the devil, humanity is doomed, parents are evil / selfish / idiotic for having kids, cars shouldn’t exist no matter what, the list goes on…
Also, 99% of the population here is Western. Nobody ever recalls that different cultures can have different opinions, different priorities, different cultural mores, etc — and I’m not talking about China vs US here. (I may still be a little salty about being temp banned for a ‘dogwhistle’ that’s nothing of the kind in Asia).
Sometimes I wonder why I’m still on Lemmy, the toxicity is pervasive and exceeds anything Reddit had.
Sometimes I wonder why I’m still on Lemmy, the toxicity is pervasive and exceeds anything Reddit
Had the same thought before but then I realized, Lemmy’s blocking system is infinite. So block anyone who is immensely toxic. Win-win.
It’s true, you gotta weed out the foaming extremists, then fruitful civil debate becomes possible.
The absolutism and the common thought process of “it’s obvious” often make me wonder how much of the lemmy community is angsty middle/high school students.
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Lemmy was huge on Proton, even after their dickbag CEO openly supported conservative billionaire talking points.
The few of us who condemned Proton got downvoted to hell everytime we brought up why. Now, the Proton spell seems to finally be breaking, thankfully. But that was fkn crazy, Lemmy. Seriously. My trust for the Lemmy zeitgeist has seen better days.
If it makes you feel better, they were off my list a long time before the ceo crap.
It was the fact they make you pay to use a 3rd party calandar app. Even microslop allows that. (At the time, I didn’t see email service was locked down too. I hadn’t gotten that far lol.)
The ceo just made sure I never consider buying their service.
I don’t consider my self a paragon of moral virtue and intellectual genius based on my political opinions.
I also really enjoy my PS5 and my Switch 2. That’s not allowed here.
You better be running Linux on those consoles pal!
Linux is AI slop now, use BSD or you’re dooming humanity.
People are generally too obsessed with the current thing and the news cycle rather than the bigger picture.
For example, I hate Trump for ICE, the Iran War, and affordability. I hated him for those things yesterday and I’ll hate him for those things tomorrow. But people seem to think there needs to be constant, wall-to-wall coverage about how every time he sneezes it’s the worst thing anyone’s ever done and his mucus is now defiling the dignity of the noble halls of blah blah blah. It’s counterproductive for so many reasons, first it lets the enemy control the focus, second people just get tired of hearing it, third it takes the focus away from the GOP in general, when Trump is a lame duck who’ll be gone soon anyway. And the shit about how he’ll cancel elections was always exaggerated and unrealistic, but it was taken as absolute fact, you had people being like, “Oh, you sweet Summer child,” and whatnot just if you acknowledged the midterms would happen. So now those people have egg on their face and someone might see that and think, “Oh, people were being alarmist, Trump isn’t as bad as people thought after all.”
Not me, though obviously. Because I still hate him for ICE, the Iran War, and affordability. The same reasons I hated him yesterday and the same reasons I will hate him tomorrow.
That’s part of the republican strategy for Trump. Firehose of bullshit, pretty sure Bannon and Epstein were talking about it in the epstein files.
I have a couple:
“Posting the same content to multiple comms is a bad”. Posting to multiple comms should be encouraged so long as it is relevant to each of them. The Threadiverse is federated and so there are many comms for the same or similar content, not every user is in or wants to join every single one. Your feed is yours and out should treat it as such, don’t complain that another user is ruining you’re feed because you decided to sort by new and are in multiple of the same or similar comms.
“.ml are all just trolls / tankies / bad”. The few trolls on .ml are given infinitely more weight than the genuine ML users, and the .world zionists and centre-right liberals are propped up as exemplary users despite constantly stoking a flame-war that most users don’t give a shit about. ML has just as much of a right to ban political dissidents from their comms as any other instance. Explicitly leftist instances exist for a reason and you don’t have to interact with them if you don’t agree.
This last one is more of a subconscious view within the “Lemmy hive mind”. The Lemmy defaultism gets exhausting (even if a minor grievance) and I wish “Lemmy” was reserved for things that are actually only relevant to Lemmy as opposed to using it as a general term for the threadiverse. I know that Lemmy was the first and is the largest and all, and it’s understandable that it would be seen as the default (similar to Mastodon for the microblogging side of things), but I wish there was more of a culture around getting users to stop referring to the whole federation as if it’s a single piece of software (similar to the culture on the microblogging side).
ML has just as much of a right to ban political dissidents from their comms as any other instance. Explicitly leftist instances exist for a reason and you don’t have to interact with them if you don’t agree.
I think the problem is that .ml doesn’t market itself as a leftist instance (anymore), and there’s nothing in the instance rules to imply that non-M-L aren’t allowed.
From what I’ve seen, if there’s even a slightly annoyed tone in the dissenting comment or post, they ban for rule 2, even if there’s another person in the thread screaming at them calling them all kinds of nonsense (but with the “correct” political opinion). Being disrespectful on .ml is fine, if you’re saying the right things.
If the person is incredibly polite, they often ban for rule 1 anyway.
They do on the “about us” link. Although it is also somewhat euphemized.
I’m guessing they don’t want the negative connotations of writing “dissenting opinions will be censored”, so they just kind of allude to it and use loosely defined rules as needed.
Fair, I don’t see anywhere that they are explicitly marxist or leftist (though I feel like that should be obvious by the name). They do however, linked immediately above the screenshot you posted, state that they are not a liberal instance and don’t want to be. They also state that they would like to see another instance take on the role of a mainstream, liberal instance. I think it is extremely unfair to expect lemmy.ml to cater to liberals when they explicitly state that their instance is not a liberal instance.
edit: link to the post: https://lemmy.ml/post/70280 (it can be found linked on their sidebar immediately above their rules)
It’s literally in the tld. Did you think it’s an instance for Mali enthusiasts?
They used to market themselves as a leftist instance, but for some reason they’ve made it less clear later on.
I figured the domain was a leftover from the past.
You’re hard pressed to find a more vindictive audience than what we’ve got here. Everyone’s on a constant hunt for something to disagree about or to maybe spot a small crack that lets the actual motives shine through and when they spot something they point it out viciously. Can’t just politely disagree with anyone let alone try and have a constructive conversation about how much we actually disagree about. No, they used AI and thus this person gets written off completely and called an asshole and fascist for it.
This makes even less sense when you consider the fact that usually the underlying reasons are political. To win in politics, all you need is numbers. That’s it. So why the fuck is everyone constantly put through this Navy SEALs hell week level of scrutiny. Nobody is ever good enough. Sometimes makes it feel like some simply want to lose just so that they can keep complaining how everything is the fault of someone else.
use Enterprise or Server
Still has the Xbox play firewall rules baked in from home/pro, is only QA tested by the crappy insider hub who only use home/pro, and eats just as many resources as home/pro.
Server meanwhile is still propped up by the futuristic technology of AD straight out of 2003.
Enterprise doesn’t even add anything compared to pro aside from like a couple of apps/tools default installed that you can also get on windows education. It’s literally just a business licence so that MSFT can charge more for businesses that have a much larger budget.
You didn’t read the question, did you?
I did, I just wanted to respond to your example seperatley anyway lol
