White House orders pause on all federal grants and loans - eviltoast
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    “The use of Federal resources to advance Marxist equity, transgenderism, and green new deal social engineering policies is a waste of taxpayer dollars that does not improve the day-to-day lives of those we serve.”

    🤮 🤮 🤮🤮 🤮 🤮

    I fucking hate these people so much… “The things that aim to improve peoples lives don’t enrich my donors or please the hateful heritage foundation so they’re bad.”

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    This is absolutely bonkers, halts 10% of the US GDP overnight and will spark civil unrest if it goes on too long.

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          He’s already said he’s thinking of using the insurrection act to invoke martial law within the next 90 days.

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          Birthing pains, bro. Birthing pains.

          Positive change doesn’t come without sacrifice.

          If you wanna make an omelette, some people gotta die.

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              We tried back in November, but too many people were screeching about BlUeMaGa, bOtHSiDeS and gEnoCiDe jOe

              So it is what it is

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                  Trump: IM GOING TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY

                  Dems: We’re not going to do that and we’ll do A and B

                  You: WHAT ABOUT Z AND Y!!! FUCK YOU WE’LL GIVE THIS COUNTRY TO TRUMP000!!!

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                Or rather, people continuously excused the rightward shift of Democrats, resulting in them thinking they dint need to be responsible to responding to their base, which they largely abandoned.

                But sure, keep blaming the voters instead of those that held power and could have actually changed strategy.

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                  We already had an answer for that, RCV and other FPTP alternatives were spreading just fine, all that had to happen was to keep Orange Face out of office last election and the Democrats would have fallen later. After Drump was in jail and MAGA imploded

                  But nooo, y’all fell for quite possibly a right-wing propaganda campaign and now we’re all paying for it

                  But we sure taught the DNC a lesson at those polls amiright!

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              Uh… have you been living under a rock? There have been multiple assassination attempts recently, one successful.

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          I can’t stand comments like this. You act like people aren’t going to be hurt and die without civil unrest.

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          I would agree with you if they had mentioned people getting violent, but instead their tone is more like they hope something causes a change. They are not gleefully wishing for violence here imo

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            Hard to tell, I was pointing out the joking tone of it. Bcz civil unrest isn’t a joke, whether it’s warranted or not. It ends up being scary for a lot of people.

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                Since you’re wondering aloud –

                Fascists control the US federal government, and many state governments. There will be violence. The only questions are who starts it, when, how much, and who wins.

                It’s coming, let’s get it over with so we can be done with this dark hour in history more quickly.

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                  It’s a little frightening that you think there’s much chance it benefits anybody other than the fascists.

                  This isn’t the pre-revolutionary era where a large amount of people would effectively take up arms and pose a credible threat.

                  They have the mechanisms of government, they have the militias, they have the backing of a significant chunk of the populace, they have the most businessmen, they have their own locked down media ecosystem, etc etc.

                  We can look to N Korea and Russia and see that a population can indeed be stabilized under modern totalitarian rule, it just took some practice for humanity to learn how to pull it off. And you want to roll the dice on this now, here?

                  edit to add a word

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      Sadly, the civil unrest will be from Republicans who somehow blame everyone else for their dear leader taking a shit on the country, again.

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          It won’t. These people are stupid enough to cheer him on after his first term in office ended with a fucking insurrection. They don’t give two shits about law or anyone else.

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            They do care about their own pocketbooks. Halting 10% of the economy is as bad or worse than Covid.

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              These morons were fine with covid except when it affected them personally, and even then they didn’t care enough to vote against the person who undermined the covid response. They never blamed the Republicans for shutting down the government multiple times for no reason other than to obstruct a Dem president.

              They are too stupid to link this to their suffering. They will just blame Dems based on whatever the orange turd says.

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    Jesus… This will directly and unequivocally shrink the economy. That money? It’s paid to businesses for services. He just fucked our GDP.

    And it’s going to disproportionately affect red states, because those are the states that receive the most federal grants.

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      They want to kill off the little fish that need that money. Also, this is a death nail for most nonprofits. Nonprofit, is a dirty word to oligarchs. Why do good things for no personal gain?! Watch for profit large corporations snap up assets and market shares of services previously provided by nonprofits and charities.

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          Just done it myself with deepseek. Fed in a list of the executive orders and got it to model scenarios and knock on effects.

          That’s worse case, if he manages to deport a significant % of immigrants, retains all funding freezes, doesn’t have anything knocked back in court.

          Just realised any tariffs that go into effect are not included in that estimate either.

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        This is straight up just misinformation, delete this. Deep seek is not a source.

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          I didn’t reference it as a source you need to get a grip lol

          It’s as accurate as me roughly working it out would be.

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            Buddy if you have even a napkin math model that can predict this with confidence, you’re going to win the nobel for economics.

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        Tell me you didn’t just post a screenshot of AI slop.

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    Yeah, a lot of this is congressional mandated funding. You can’t just take that away with the swipe of a pen. If congressional doesn’t act, or many lawsuits don’t get filed to challenge this, we really are living in the beginnings of a fascist regime, and we are meekly accepting it.

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      we really are living in the beginnings of a fascist regime, and we are meekly accepting it.

      Ding ding ding

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      The thing is, you can maybe take it to court, but the suspension itself while a court examines it might be disruptive.

      It looks like there are a number of federal loans preferentially extended to a number of groups (black-owned businesses, female-owned businesses, etc) by the Small Business Administration. If Trump intended to end minority-preferential lending, say, I could see that going over well with people who voted for him, but across-the-board temporary suspension while it’s evaluated seems to me like it’d make a lot of people out there who voted for him unhappy.

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    This guy is out to harm millions of Americans. If not corrected and just allowed to happen we’ll end up with a recession worse than 08. This is treason to willfully do this as president

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      It is also treason to tell an angry armed mob to go to the capitol and fight fight fight but look at all those harsh penalties he got for that

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      Sadly, I worry the US needs to suffer badly if there is to be any hope of embracing real progress in the future.

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        After the Great Depression happened the largest wave of worker protections and regulations were passed in US history.

        So maybe you’re not wrong, we just need a Great Depression 2 unfortunately

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        Need to? Nope. Is that what will happen? Probably, looking like that’s the only way it will happen

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            I was simply adding to what you said, that it was all avoidable if so many Americans weren’t morons

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        If he guts VA benefits, that might be the nail in his coffin. He’s going to piss everyone off, then piss if trained killers even more.

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      Congress? You mean the two houses which are now firmly in control by Republicans. There there, and the Republican majority couldn’t give a fuck what Trump does, as long as it destroys American democratic institutions. They weren’t coy about this since the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Congress, this congress, the one which was just installed, and elected this past November, is going to sit back, and watch it all burn. Ask about The Supreme Court next.

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        People get butthurt when you blame Democrats around here instead of the people doing it, but Democrats are just watching this shit go down.

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          Democrats have no majority, or control of any of the three [Legislative (Congress), Judicial (DOJ and Supreme Court), or Executive (Presidency)] branches of US Government, what would you have Democrats do, you know, without the Constitutional power to do it?

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          Watching silently or outright supporting it. Harris swung to the right because that’s what leadership Dems saw Republicans doing and it worked for them. Any critisism of the tactic, here there everywhere, was silenced. The result was one of the most spectacular political losses of all time, but also…

          That fake ass Democrats who were only ever using the party as cover now has been given space to step right.

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    I saw in another post on this that it could also impact student loans federal college grants since those funds are given directly to universities. It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out as spring term begins in a month or two.

    Edited to use the right terminology.

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      OMB clarified that VA benefits and PELL Grants are not included.

      I’m sure that’ll change in… Forty seconds or so but as it stands now, the leopards have delayed eating those faces for now.

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      As spring term begins in a month or two.

      Me preparing for midterms: Eyes look to side, look forward meme.

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    Trump advisor: “Sir, the debt limit is looming! Soon we won’t be able to pay out money to anything!”

    Trump:" Even if the congress approved it to be spent, we could just not spend it? Legally?"

    Advisor:" Well, yes, that is what the debt limit does…"

    Trump:" How about just stop spending on the stuff we don’t like? You just said we could do that, even if it was approved…"