White House orders pause on all federal grants and loans, impacting trillions of dollars in aid. Impact on Social Security and Medicare benefits excluded.
Fascists control the US federal government, and many state governments. There will be violence. The only questions are who starts it, when, how much, and who wins.
It’s coming, let’s get it over with so we can be done with this dark hour in history more quickly.
It’s a little frightening that you think there’s much chance it benefits anybody other than the fascists.
This isn’t the pre-revolutionary era where a large amount of people would effectively take up arms and pose a credible threat.
They have the mechanisms of government, they have the militias, they have the backing of a significant chunk of the populace, they have the most businessmen, they have their own locked down media ecosystem, etc etc.
We can look to N Korea and Russia and see that a population can indeed be stabilized under modern totalitarian rule, it just took some practice for humanity to learn how to pull it off. And you want to roll the dice on this now, here?
One extreme or the other, eh? It’s not between fight now or give up, there is a whole spectrum in between, that takes things like opportunity and timing into account.
I think there’s a term for that, when a person only represents the options as one of two extremes.
I’ll be sure to keep your “opportunity” and “timing” in mind while my friends are being deported and my siblings are being rounded up into trans camps.
“I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: ‘I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action’; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a ‘more convenient season.’"
Martin Luther King, Jr, Letter from a Birmingham Jail, April 1963
Just remember, if we lose then things get worse, so maybe don’t execute before you’ve laid some proper groundwork. I’m sorry, but in real life, we don’t always emerge victorious.
Since you’re wondering aloud –
Fascists control the US federal government, and many state governments. There will be violence. The only questions are who starts it, when, how much, and who wins.
It’s coming, let’s get it over with so we can be done with this dark hour in history more quickly.
It’s a little frightening that you think there’s much chance it benefits anybody other than the fascists.
This isn’t the pre-revolutionary era where a large amount of people would effectively take up arms and pose a credible threat.
They have the mechanisms of government, they have the militias, they have the backing of a significant chunk of the populace, they have the most businessmen, they have their own locked down media ecosystem, etc etc.
We can look to N Korea and Russia and see that a population can indeed be stabilized under modern totalitarian rule, it just took some practice for humanity to learn how to pull it off. And you want to roll the dice on this now, here?
edit to add a word
Lay down and give up if you want to.
One extreme or the other, eh? It’s not between fight now or give up, there is a whole spectrum in between, that takes things like opportunity and timing into account.
I think there’s a term for that, when a person only represents the options as one of two extremes.
I’ll be sure to keep your “opportunity” and “timing” in mind while my friends are being deported and my siblings are being rounded up into trans camps.
Just remember, if we lose then things get worse, so maybe don’t execute before you’ve laid some proper groundwork. I’m sorry, but in real life, we don’t always emerge victorious.
I understand where you might have gotten that idea. I’ll clarify.
We’re waiting for a shoe to drop. While it won’t be good when that shoe drops, there will still be a certain sense of relief when it does.
Getting back to what started this thread:
Which one of the actions of this president will finally be the one to get the public to turn against fascism? This one? Please? Don’t tease me.
Alright, that’s fair.