Not surprising. As long as they can afford the servers, it will probably get to Mastadon levels.
Lemmy is a replacement for reddit, and reddit was always much smaller than Instagram.
Hopefully people are willing to donate to their instances to keep them financially healthy. It’ll be a pretty big issue for growth if it starts to get popular but the larger instances can’t afford to stay operational and disappear.
… which is absolutely understandable considering how lemmy is most of the time,
it’s politics non-stop, one bad news after another, everyone is quick to bash somebody as either a nazi or a tankie or something else.
there aren’t many places where you can discuss politics or at least try to find comfort in seeing others think somewhat same way. No wonder its all concentrating here. But there definitely should be a lot more non-politics content.
so how do we interact with pixelfed from lemmy or mastodon?
Yes! We need a better interface between them
Does the server matter at all? Wasn’t able to find a straight pixelfed.ca like I did with Lemmy, but it seems like people always end up dunking on the larger servers or defederating them because of Nazis.
It’s always going to be like that; photo blogging is a lot more popular than niche forums and bulletin boards.
Also, Pixelfed has a lot more eyes on it because of Meta being in the news.
It’s not a bad thing though.
Pixelfed-eral police
I’m finding the iOS app buggy as heck. It just crashes as soon as I open it. Had to delete it. May try again later.
Not surprising since half of lemmy seems to be a support group for inhalant abusers.
When a fediverse app wins, the whole fediverse wins. A rising tide lifts all ships or however it goes.
iirc it goes “chafing thighs attract all chicks”
People like looking at photos of food and cats more than being railed for having "incorrect* political viewpoints? (/s for anyone not picking up on that btw:-P)
I literally just got called a snowflake in another thread for saying people should stop posting US politics in general communities. People still wonder why Lemmy has a bad reputation even in the entire Fediverse… Sometimes I wonder why I still bother here.
i just hate the way most people here assume everyone is coming from US smh
Or the vast majority of political spam from only one country. I’d like more of a worldview. Be interesting to see how others have other problems and how it might be solved with other solutions.
I guess I am a snowflake too then, bc to me consent should matter. And while the USA is a part of the world, and also has an oversized effect upon it due to the size of the economy and trade deals and the like, it also can be overwhelming for some, who feel ostracized and left out as if only the big guys (and guns) matter.
But on the other hand, it is known that moderation sucks across the vast majority of Lemmy - it’s somewhat baked right into the tools themselves, e.g. removing whole posts rather than merely taking them out of the community lists but allowing people to continue their discussions already begun, as Reddit does.
So you may want to take it upon yourself to either start blocking by keywords (maybe find an app that allows that - I’m not sure which ones), or user accounts that do that, or even find a better community to engage with.
Though I agree with your conclusion: I no longer recommend Lemmy to people irl by virtue of having been burned by that far too many times before. We’re toxic AF in this Alt-Left (rather than Alt-Right) “Nazi bar” space, and a lot of the people here are legit those banned from Reddit for exactly that behavior.
I’m also a snowflake, cause it’s also annoying that people assume you’re from USA.
What state are you from?
That did make some sense… at one time, on Reddit or Facebook, but damn times have changed since then. Though teenagers have not :-).
Someone called you a snowflake? Ok…uh, I’ll call you a carrot.
But also, I don’t understand the rules for this game. It’s a snowman game, right?
I don’t disagree it’s an issue, but what should be allowed in general communities? If any other nation’s politics are allowed, then you can’t really just not allow US politics (unless you make that a rule for the community and part of its purpose, which is fine).
There are just more Americans here than any particular other nationality, so you get more US content on average. You’ll need specific non-US communities if you want to avoid it. Expecting general communities to not reflect the general audience is a little absurd.
It’s what’s turned me off this entire time. Everything is replied to with someone virtue signaling.
I just got called a rapist! For asking wtf she was wearing, fashion wise. (On a non rape story just to be clear). I also wonder why I’m still here. Y’all need to be better.
Looking at the comments, I can see how your comment got misinterpreted. I do believe you had no such intention, but the way it was worded (especially the last word, ‘anyway’) makes it sound out of context as if you were victim blaming. And from the number of votes, it’s obvious many see it that way. Rather than get mad at randos on the internet, why not just reflect that you might have written that in a somewhat confusing way, and clarify it? Without escalating.
I can see. But if people have a choice to interpret something as 1) that a question about fashion is in fact an innocuous question about fashion, or 2) that he’s obviously a rapist and victim blaming and I’m going to call him a rapist (when the entire tone of the thread and community is not serious), the problem that I see is that Lemmy is quick to misinterpret in the worst way possible.
And oddly enough, he was the person to escalate with that accusation, and I was the one to explain it.
Where did someone call you a rapist? Was it removed?
if people have a choice to interpret something as 1) that a question about fashion is in fact an innocuous question about fashion, or 2) that he’s obviously a rapist and victim blaming and I’m going to call him a rapist (when the entire tone of the thread and community is not serious)
That’s on the assumption that the reader sees both possible meanings, though. Most people don’t do that, the first meaning that comes to mind is the one we go with. It’s a very rare person that will, without external prompting, go ‘I wonder if he meant something else?’.
And oddly enough, he was the person to escalate with that explanation, and I was the one to explain it.
From his POV, you had already escalated. Yeah it was due to his misunderstanding. But at that point you were the one with a choice as to whether to nicely explain your actual original meaning, (and maybe edit the confusing line?) or just rage about everybody on Lemmy being quick to assume the worst. Nobody’s the asshole here, it was a misunderstanding, but you could have chosen to make it better :)
If someone can’t see what the literal words say then… there are bigger problems. Which may actually explain things.
It’s odd that you think I raged. I observed.
Yeah as expected I went and checked the comment in question and you are definitely misrepresenting it. You are omitting the context of the post, which is like…the entire fucking problem.
The amount of times I see people go “I was banned for literally no reason!” and the like only to discover they’re not being exactly truthful is staggering.
TbF I’ve seen plenty of wildly inappropriate bans on Lemmy too.
No one said they never happen 🤷♂️
The context of the post: 196 which is essentially a shit posting and take nothing serious community. Yeah that context. And that it was a straight question about what she was wearing, fashion wise since you really need to hear it. So thank you for demonstrating the exact problem!
You know I just read an interesting piece about how Musk deploys plausible deniability - or rather attempts to. He thinks he’s clever and he isn’t.
I know what 196 is. The context is the image. You really can’t see any reason why you got that reaction? Really and truly?
Reaction? If you see a simple question in a shitposting community, with the image of a fashion choice that is unconventional, and think “Hmm should I interpret this as a question about fashion as he asked, or should I interpret this as he’s a rapist and trying to be clever about it”, if you default to thinking that the other person is obviously a rapist (as you seem to have, saying that I’m seeking plausible deniability and try to associate me with Musk and trying to be clever with rape lol), then holy fuck, and frankly that’s on you. That was your reaction. Like you have to really out there to default to “he’s obviously a rapist”. You need to be better.
Honestly this is the perfect example of how Lemmy has a ravenous need to misinterpret. You just did it yourself.
This is such a reach dude. Also her outfit is far from “unconventional.“ But I’m not gonna get bogged down in the weeds of that one.
I remember somebody tried to talk to me recently about the economics of the third Reich without talking about the war. At some point you’re just ignoring what’s in front of you to the point where it’s dishonest.
You’re having a very real principal Skinner moment here. A lot of people are telling you the issue, yet you are hell bent on hiding behind intention. Unfortunately intention is not enough. Especially when you double down in the face of valid critiques.
I know you don’t want advice from me but I’m going to give it anyway: take a beat, step away from this conversation, then come back and think about why people may have had a negative reaction to what you said. There is an important lesson here you can pick up if you want to.
You were just joking around, right? Well, perhaps they were too. If you want it assumed about you, perhaps go ahead and assume it about then. That way, even if the former does not happen, at least you will definitely have the moral high ground regardless. Now, what was it that Obi Wan always says about the high ground…? :-P
LOL no I wasn’t joking around (about rape or anything else). It was a legit, straightforward question about fashion. And no he wasn’t joking, it was a pretty clear accusation.
I’m so confused.
This place just needs better moderation. I’ve said this multiple times before but there is a serious lack of moderation and most admins go dark for long periods of time. Make it clear this behavior isn’t okay, ban people who run their mouth, and remove low-effort posts.
I personally have seen much worse overmoderation than undermoderation.
Its nice right now…Hope it stays.
How dare you!! Here’s why you need to be vegan right now by the way grumble grumble grumble
Oh excuse me, while I convert my entire personality to incorporate that energy…
There, done! I am now okay with murdering anyone who is okay with, ah… murdering a uh… wait, I may see a problem here.:-P
It is your fault President Musk got elected, shitlord!!!
Kick ass! I’m all for more Fediverse stuff getting popular, and if this has any competition, just means more features will be added across all of them.
Hell yeah! 2025 is the year of the
linuxFediversedesktop!If you look at monthly active users instead of total users, Pixelfed is a strong 2nd place.
Misskey should have more active users, even more than Pixelfed right now. Almost all Japanese fediverse users are on Misskey instances.
A lot of post in Misskey instance are often followers only. I know several instance that the admin say they have thousands of users but simply not reporting any MAU users for certain reason. Even the one that report them are usually lower than actual MAU due to “offline mode”
I’ve been wondering about that - the Misskey numbers are very weird, with MAU even lower than the number of new users that join in an average month. But this is a good explanation, thanks. It’s just too bad there’s not a good way to get MAU for them.
What’s first?
Mastodon
What are you guys posting pictures of over on pixelfed? What’s goin’ on over there that’s so popular? Is it more politics, and social issues? Or is it cats?
There’s a sudden influx of users from instagram and tiktok and whatnot because of the ban, zuckerberg fellating Trump, and all of that stuff going on. So the answer to “What’s getting posted?” is “everything”
that user name logo should be a war crime
I have standing orders to invade the Hague if ever tried there
It’s hilarious because it is so distracting … I scroll down my page and see this loading icon and it took me several passes before I got used to it.
It’s like Pavlov’s dog … I see a loading icon and I immediately sit there and wait … for something, I don’t know what but I have to wait … I took me a few times before I got used to it.
Interesting because i just joined 1 day ago so my feed only has 5 default following, but discover only has about 5 other peoples’ work repeated through the discover tab. It seems difficult to discover new people which could be a problem in retaining normal people after the ibflux, like what happened to lemmy
Which server did you join? I’ve been following lots of hashtags (including cats), so my feed there is pretty active. Just hoping some IRL friends and family will join soon so I have those sort of accounts to follow and share with.
Gram.social
To me, the entire idea behind federation is that, like mastodon and Lemmy, you can see everything in the space, not just what is on your own server, especially by default or extremely upfront and clear way to make the behavior like that. That is the entire thing people are afraid of when they have to choose a server which leads to centralization or people simply leaving.
I mean I also don’t get any of the hashtags I follow on my feed. Only the 5 accounts they forced me to follow by default.
It’s hard for me to believe the number of 44k monthly active users and yet the “most popular accounts” that I can see on discover have 45 followers and there is virtually no activity outside of a few photographers that imported their Instagram account.
Maybe federation isn’t working correctly for that instance? Maybe try to reach out to the admin?
I’m on Gram.social but don’t have that experience. Interesting.
Huh. Are you using the web browser or an app? Oddly, when I browse my gram.social home feed via the web browser, it’s mostly (but not exclusively) just the default accounts in my feed, but when I browse via the Pixelfed, PixelDroid, or Pixelix apps, I’m seeing lots of posts coming from many other servers, including Mastodon servers.
I am using the app. I sent a message to Stix the admin of the instance and magically a few hours later I was able to see everything (but no response). I wonder if there is a timed lockout or simply a soft ban to prevent spam on that instance. I also verified that discover indeed linked to other instances, but the results were still all but useless.
However, there is still no way I can find to switch to or even view the global feed on the app, but I can do that on the web browser app easily. Is there a setting that I am missing or so? It is very straightforward on every mastodon and lemmy app…
Crazy enough. People are posting what they were posting on instagram.
…titty pictures of girls in bikinis from women who claim to be influencers, but have an audience that mostly doesn’t communicate or care what she has to say, thus negating any influence her words have?
I dunno, I only follow capybarabot.
My dog. no really, hes a good boy.
And I follow one of the people from an Aquarium with fantastic shots.
From what I have found, its almost all photos of animals and nature. Honestly I am kinda disappointed. I want memes. I also got onto Loops and that is also mostly animals and nature, but with the very occasional funny.
Everything. It’s like early days Instagram, but people are more politically and socially aware, and posting about those things.
I posted a guide to modding a tatacon for taiko no tatsujin
…did you just have a stroke??? Did you turn Japanese midsentence? What just happened here?
That’s not Japanese fyi, 太鼓の達人 is the Japanese name
It is Japanese drumming game with an associated controller, I posted a guide with pictures to modify the drum controller so it’s more sensitive to being hit
I’d say it’s Japanese, just the romaji for 太鼓の達人. English translation would be like “drum master”
I mean yes but it’s also the official title for the English release of the game.
Like to be clear I’m not being the person who’s like “oh have you seen Kôkaku Kidôtai?” And then you’re like “what the fuck is that” and I’m like “uh, I guess if you’re uncultured you might know it as ghost in the shell.” And then everyone in the room groans because of fucking course every single person who speaks English as a native language has always called it ghost in the shell
I see what you mean, it’s good to clarify. This was all according to my keikaku
omae wa mō shindeiru
なに?!
Severely underrated game (with also one of the most underrated minigames ever!). I just wish it had more vidya crossover music.
The new one has more game music than old ones did. But to get a lot of it you have to subscribe. Thankfully the subscription isn’t terribly expensive ($10/3mo) and it’s easy to get it in a way that doesn’t auto renew. Music licensing is stupid though so music games are dying and will probably forever be subscription services going forward. The days of buying a game like guitar hero are long gone.
It has the classic ones like Mario medley, Zelda overworld, Kirby, persona 5, undertale, etc. but the game pass adds stuff like tekken, id@lmaster, ridge racer, tales of symphonia, ace combat, etc.
it’s a weird mix that’s definitely missing a lot of iconic stuff though. The push is definitely more pop/vocaloid/anime music
Alternatively you can get something like opentaiko or tjaplayer (closer to the real game) and use custom charts from a site like https://ese.tjadataba.se/ESE/ESE . You need a pc but it doesn’t require a particularly great pc and pretty much every drum controller, including the official console ones, work on pc.
I definitely wish it was more popular in the west. Online play is an absolute ghost town unless you play during Japan time. Like if you play during peak us hours matchmaking will literally spend 20-30 minutes to find no one.
It’s mostly landscape, food, and cats.
I’m mainly posting dogs and computers
ikr lemmy has a little over 40k active users. If you look at the first data point just as the slope starts to rise, that’s where lemmy is by comparison:
Total users is pretty meaningless bc it includes things like users who left and will never return, and bot accounts.
Is this the fediverse’s answer to Instagram?
Yes.
-Instagram has pixelfed. -Reddit has lemmy -X has Mastodon/Misskey/Pleroma (&forks…) -Tiktok has loops (app still super rough around the edges and sadly on limited to one instance rather than having its own software from what i understand) -Youtube has peertube (so far the least used i think)
I can’t wait for peertube to take off. I think of all of the social medias, youtube has the most enduring monopoly, because hosting is such a huge barrier it’s got even more of a natural monopoly than regular social media.
I think once peertube can start ascending that might be the ballgame for decentralised social media in general.
Exactly!! YouTube is by far the best “social” platform (or least shit) and sadly the strongest monopoly. Cus what the fuck is a newly made competitor gonna do? Rip all YouTube videos and host them? People on IG and X etc don’t really go around looking at old posts, those places are more for looking at what’s new and such. On YouTube however its entirely game that u find a dope edutainment video from years ago that you happen to vibe with.
That is very true, and I think some kind of archive is going to be important eventually. I think to get around the hosting costs, one method could be for peertube instances to form a union of instances for collective purchases, because the cost goes down with scale.
With a large enough group you could even split hosting among different providers to prevent a monopoly from forming in the hosting space.
I think a big part of that is just straight up storage space, more specially a lack thereof. Google won’t release specifics but estimates put the total data stored by YouTube at somewhere near an exabyte (1 million terrabytes). Most of which is made up by video files.
Of course that’s just issue number 1 of many to figure out.
Storage costs keeps getting cheaper, but high quality video keeps taking up more space.
It’s a matter of finding where the line between cost and user satisfaction meet.
Like sure you could limit all videos to 60fps @ 720p or 30fps @ 1080p but most everyone now wants everything 120fps @ 2160p which takes up dozens of gigs per video and eats up bandwidth.
Does peertube have monetization for creator’s? Because that’s how you get content that most people watch.
Honestly youtube barely has it currently. The vast majority of creators make very little on the platform and rely largely on supporter donations, merch and sponsorships, which could work on any platform.
By squeezing creators out of every penny they can, youtube has forced people to find other options abd made themselves less and less relevant. I guess that’s enshittification for you.
You can also gate access to certain videos on peertube, so a nebula-like model might also work eventually.
I’m genuinely confused. Is YouTube even profitable ATP? Hard to imagine it not being so but they’ve been doubling down on squeezing out every coin they can, trying to fight adblock is one example, pushing out more ads too. Wtf even is going on over there.
Different metrics on profitability. Are you judging their hosting costs on how much it actually costs Google to add more in their already existing data centers for YouTube like a good vertically integrated monopoly or are you judging their hosting costs on how much their google cloud bill would be. You’ll get wildly different numbers depending on the method.
I don’t know that they’ve ever been profitable. They might be a loss-leader in some way, feeding into google’s ad ecosystem somehow, or maybe it was always just theoretically profitable in the future in some ill-defined way that allowed the money to keep flowing. Who knows.
All I know is, if they follow the pattern the rest of them have, they aren’t going to be sustainable long-term.
I dont understand how to join or post on peertube, its the most confusing, do you host your own, is there a feed of all the servers?
You just pick an instance and join it, sadly i don’t think it has enough federation yet so its entirely possible u just chose a bad instance and have amazing creators sitting on other instances yours isn’t federated with
If you f up and join lemmy.dbzero you wont see any posts from lemmyworld users and the same issue if you join the other
That’s actually not true. Lemmy.world and lemmy.dbzer0.com are fully federated, you can see for yourself if you check the instances tab.
The only thing that people incessantly complain about is that lemmy.world blocked one single community from dbzer0, the piracy community. For an account on lemmy.dbzer0, that has absolutely no effect. For an account on lemmy.world, that just means they need an alt if they want to participate in that one community. The two userbases can still fully interact all over lemmy, it’s just that lemmy.world decided to block the piracy community to cover their asses legally.
Look, here’s https://lemmy.world/c/adhd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
But people make such a big deal about that one blocked community that a lot of people get the idea that they are defederated or something. You’re not the first person I’ve had to correct about this, not even the first this week lol.
Incorrect, I’m on dbzer0 and see all of LW just fine
Can they not see you? Or is it just piracy stuff
Just the one community about piracy. The rest can be seen both ways
Is there federated Tumblr? @Newbuild@lemmy.nz is still on Tumblr and drag wants to get thing away from corporate media even if Tumblr has a better record than literally every other corpo media
Wafrn
Microblogging is covered by Mastodon and Pleroma. People there could easily use them for the same content. There are a ton of options to crosspost tumblr to Mastodon.
The biggest problem is discovery on Tumblr is a LOT easier than Mastodon, you have to advertise and advocate for yourself
Sorry, genuinely forgot what tumblr even does/is lol.
lmao. Bot got drag to make an account and tried to teach drag, and drag still doesn’t get it either. Bot can explain.
Yea peertube is rough… Mostly in part due to, in my opinion at least, people wanting to make use of YouTube’s ad revenue system even tho most creators I watch making most of their income via donations rather than ad revenue.
Where does Honk fit into this? https://humungus.tedunangst.com/r/honk
Yes and the same developer does Loops, the TikTok “equivalent”
Not sure when he sleeps
fuck it, I tried mastodon, I’ll give pixelfed a try too.
Thanks to Fedilab, I can’t tell the difference!
Just tried to sign up for over thirty minutes, this’ll always be the biggest barrier. I have an account but can’t seem to login.
I’ve liked pixelfed. I don’t use it much though because my friends aren’t on it so I don’t see much of a point.
Same, just created an account on metapixl.com even though I never used Instagram before
