Server updated to Lemmy 0.18.1 - eviltoast

eviltoast.org has been upgraded to lemmy and lemmy-ui 0.18.1. Release notes copied below.

Release v0.18.1 Release · LemmyNet/lemmy · GitHub

What’s Changed

  • eviltoast adminOPMAEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    major communities only have like 3 subscribers,

    I think it’s just due to the way lemmy is showing subscribers. If you go to https://eviltoast.org/communities?listingType=All&page=1 - it only shows the “local” subscriber count, so accounts from this instance subscribed to those communities even though those communities aren’t local.

    There’s this feature request open to improve that, hopefully something similar will get implemented: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1824

    I’m guessing the users/month is more accurate, but I haven’t checked how that gets calculated.

    If you’re looking for specific communities, I’ve had better luck using https://lemmyverse.net/communities so far.

    missing a lot of search results for communities

    I’ll check, can you send an example of something missing?

    • FeelzGoodMan420English
      2·
      1 year ago

      Sure. Search “firefox” in communities under all. You will only see 2 results. If you search on lemmy.world, you’ll get like 10 results. It’s just not showing everything. It should be obvious. Let me know!

      • eviltoast adminOPMAEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        firefox

        Got it, thanks!

        So on lemmy.world, we get:

        Firefox@lemmy.ml - 1.48K subscribers
Firefox - 1K subscribers
Firefox@fedia.io - 752 subscribers
Firefox CSS - 146 subscribers
Firefox Customs@fedia.io - 30 subscribers
Firefox Browser (Linux und Android)@feddit.de - 30 subscribers
FF addons&extensions@lemmy.ml - 3 subscribers
Firefox@kbin.social - 3 subscribers

        But on eviltoast.org, we only get:

        Firefox@lemmy.ml - 3 subscribers
Firefox@fedia.io - 3 subscribers

        The reason the others don’t show up is because nobody on this instance is subscribed to them yet, and haven’t searched explicitly for it. I’m working on a new script that populates the local list of communities from lemmyverse, but I also noticed the data there doesn’t match up with lemmy.world. On https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=firefox&order=posts I don’t even see Firefox@lemmy.ml for some reason.

        I was only going to automatically add communities with more than 50 posts/comments, but I might lower that too.

        If you want to subscribe to something not in the search though, you can still do that by searching for the url of the community like “https://lemmy.world/c/firefoxcss”. You might have to give it a couple seconds and try again, but it should show up.

        • FeelzGoodMan420English
          2·
          1 year ago

          Oh that is very interesting. So it ony shows you communities that eviltoast members have subscribed to? If so, how are people supposed to find new communities that they may be interested in? I had no idea that’s how it worked. I guess i would use that communities search link that you provided?

          • eviltoast adminOPMAEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            Yup, it’s one of the main downsides so far. There’s not really a good built in way to discover remote communities yet.

            There’s the lemmyverse link and a few similar apps that all aggregate communities into one list, using one of those is easiest imo for now.

            I think I can finish the script I was working on to import all or most communities so that they show up in the search results, but the subscriber count will still only reflect the local users and not the real count.

            • FeelzGoodMan420English
              2·
              1 year ago

              Got it. Thanks. I’m still learning a lot about how this works. It is a bit confusing!

            • FeelzGoodMan420English
              2·
              1 year ago

              Wait something is still weird. I’m not seeing comments on other communities that I manually added. I can see them if i visit the instance directly but not through evil toast when loged in. Do you know what’s going on?

              • eviltoast adminOPMAEnglish
                1·
                1 year ago

                As far as I’ve seen so far, posts and comments only start showing up from the time you subscribe to a community. When you manually search for a specific community and subscribe to it, I think it does pull the last 20 or so posts, but not the comments for those posts. There’s no backfill or history fetching in lemmy.

                The script I’m using to pull in popular communities is the same as searching for each community it finds, so it doesn’t actually subscribe or pull posts either. I might try that for a few days though and see what happens, I’m not sure how much it’d cause the disk or network to explode.

                • FeelzGoodMan420English
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  Wait let me get this straight. If i subscribe to a large community, it only pulls in the last few comments and then it shows comments going forward? It doesn’t show historical comments?

                  Is this by design of Lemmy? If so, that sounds like an odd design? Like say I join a techsupport community and I’m trying to search for how to fix something. I won’t be able to see all the old helpful comments unless I search for it on the actual instance it’s hosted on while NOT logged into an account on eviltoast? Seems like an odd design choice? Is it designed this way because Lemmy is still scaling and the devs didn’t want to overwhelm small instances with data?

                  • eviltoast adminOPMAEnglish
                    2·
                    1 year ago

                    You’ve got it right, I agree is kind of weird, but it looks like it is by design (so far): https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2825

                    I’m waiting for some sort of “remote” search, I think that’d solve a lot of weird issues if we could get results from more than just the local instance.

            • FeelzGoodMan420English
              2·
              1 year ago

              Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do I subscibe to communities that don’t show up in the search here? I can’t figure it out.

              Edit: nvm i got it. Yea if you could just pull in all communities with users over like 15 or so, that would be great!