Server updated to Lemmy 0.18.1 - eviltoast

eviltoast.org has been upgraded to lemmy and lemmy-ui 0.18.1. Release notes copied below.

Release v0.18.1 Release · LemmyNet/lemmy · GitHub

What’s Changed

  • FeelzGoodMan420English
    2·
    1 year ago

    Sure. Search “firefox” in communities under all. You will only see 2 results. If you search on lemmy.world, you’ll get like 10 results. It’s just not showing everything. It should be obvious. Let me know!

    • eviltoast adminOPMAEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      firefox

      Got it, thanks!

      So on lemmy.world, we get:

      Firefox@lemmy.ml - 1.48K subscribers
Firefox - 1K subscribers
Firefox@fedia.io - 752 subscribers
Firefox CSS - 146 subscribers
Firefox Customs@fedia.io - 30 subscribers
Firefox Browser (Linux und Android)@feddit.de - 30 subscribers
FF addons&extensions@lemmy.ml - 3 subscribers
Firefox@kbin.social - 3 subscribers

      But on eviltoast.org, we only get:

      Firefox@lemmy.ml - 3 subscribers
Firefox@fedia.io - 3 subscribers

      The reason the others don’t show up is because nobody on this instance is subscribed to them yet, and haven’t searched explicitly for it. I’m working on a new script that populates the local list of communities from lemmyverse, but I also noticed the data there doesn’t match up with lemmy.world. On https://lemmyverse.net/communities?query=firefox&order=posts I don’t even see Firefox@lemmy.ml for some reason.

      I was only going to automatically add communities with more than 50 posts/comments, but I might lower that too.

      If you want to subscribe to something not in the search though, you can still do that by searching for the url of the community like “https://lemmy.world/c/firefoxcss”. You might have to give it a couple seconds and try again, but it should show up.

      • FeelzGoodMan420English
        2·
        1 year ago

        Oh that is very interesting. So it ony shows you communities that eviltoast members have subscribed to? If so, how are people supposed to find new communities that they may be interested in? I had no idea that’s how it worked. I guess i would use that communities search link that you provided?

        • eviltoast adminOPMAEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Yup, it’s one of the main downsides so far. There’s not really a good built in way to discover remote communities yet.

          There’s the lemmyverse link and a few similar apps that all aggregate communities into one list, using one of those is easiest imo for now.

          I think I can finish the script I was working on to import all or most communities so that they show up in the search results, but the subscriber count will still only reflect the local users and not the real count.

          • FeelzGoodMan420English
            2·
            1 year ago

            Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do I subscibe to communities that don’t show up in the search here? I can’t figure it out.

            Edit: nvm i got it. Yea if you could just pull in all communities with users over like 15 or so, that would be great!

          • FeelzGoodMan420English
            2·
            1 year ago

            Wait something is still weird. I’m not seeing comments on other communities that I manually added. I can see them if i visit the instance directly but not through evil toast when loged in. Do you know what’s going on?

            • eviltoast adminOPMAEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              As far as I’ve seen so far, posts and comments only start showing up from the time you subscribe to a community. When you manually search for a specific community and subscribe to it, I think it does pull the last 20 or so posts, but not the comments for those posts. There’s no backfill or history fetching in lemmy.

              The script I’m using to pull in popular communities is the same as searching for each community it finds, so it doesn’t actually subscribe or pull posts either. I might try that for a few days though and see what happens, I’m not sure how much it’d cause the disk or network to explode.

              • FeelzGoodMan420English
                2·
                1 year ago

                Wait let me get this straight. If i subscribe to a large community, it only pulls in the last few comments and then it shows comments going forward? It doesn’t show historical comments?

                Is this by design of Lemmy? If so, that sounds like an odd design? Like say I join a techsupport community and I’m trying to search for how to fix something. I won’t be able to see all the old helpful comments unless I search for it on the actual instance it’s hosted on while NOT logged into an account on eviltoast? Seems like an odd design choice? Is it designed this way because Lemmy is still scaling and the devs didn’t want to overwhelm small instances with data?

                • eviltoast adminOPMAEnglish
                  2·
                  1 year ago

                  You’ve got it right, I agree is kind of weird, but it looks like it is by design (so far): https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2825

                  I’m waiting for some sort of “remote” search, I think that’d solve a lot of weird issues if we could get results from more than just the local instance.

                  • FeelzGoodMan420English
                    2·
                    1 year ago

                    Also it incentivizes people to join really large old instances like lemmy.world or lemmy.ml rather than new smaller instances like yours. That isn’t right…

                  • FeelzGoodMan420English
                    2·
                    1 year ago

                    Yea. I just don’t see how lemmy can possibly be a replacement to Reddit unless it pulls in historical comments/posts.

          • FeelzGoodMan420English
            2·
            1 year ago

            Got it. Thanks. I’m still learning a lot about how this works. It is a bit confusing!