I could be totally wrong but my take on it is that they’re just wanting the community to handle it so they can work on other parts of lemmy. They at least don’t seem like they’re against better mod tools.

day-to-day mod and admin actions on this instance are pretty low. Bigger instances like LW probably would have more reason to complain :D

IMO I don’t think it is something the lemmy devs are focused on, but there is a growing community creating helpful tools around moderation/federation/maintenance. There were some core features added like mods being able to see downvotes to detect mass downvoting, and open issues for things like an invite system.

LemmyAutomod is an example of a community effort. I saw some other similar bots posted too.

It does look like the issue in the previous thread is what caused a few instances to defederate from us. The spam issue was solved, so hopefully we’ll be able to get refederated again to those instances.

The signup application process is now also enabled for new users.

Thanks for the report. This user and several others were banned last night. I’m looking for others as well that may not have been quite as bad.

Ah I did not realize that was a limitation either :(

I put a link to this thread in the sidebar for now. Let me know if you want me to copy something else into it instead

Thanks @activistPnk@slrpnk.net - !travel@eviltoast.org is not active at all, but I have nothing against it!

Since you’re already a moderator on !solarpunktravel@slrpnk.net , I also gave you mod access here. No pressure to do anything with it, but you’re able to if wanted.

Please see https://eviltoast.org/post/3963121 - we are now on 0.19.2! Thanks for your patience.

In case anyone is wondering, I’m still holding off on 0.19.1 because of this outgoing federation issue: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4288

There is an open PR for it that might fix it. Assuming it does, we’ll upgrade once it’s merged in and released.

threads.net is now on the blocked list. Please do leave a comment if you disagree with this decision!

Hello and welcome!

I was holding off on 0.19.0 because of some performance issues other instances were having. It looks like that is probably fixed now though with 0.19.1 released today.

Unless there are any more big issues, it’ll probably happen in the next day or so.

👋 I am leaning towards defederating w/ Threads. Lemmy 0.19.0 does have a feature to block instances at the user level, and I was thinking that might help when we upgrade. But with so many users on threads (compared to lemmy), I don’t think it’d be hard for threads to overwhelm everything.

I’m not even sure what sort of load impact it will have on servers. I can imagine a lot of instances will accidentally ddos themselves just by following stuff on threads.

There isn’t really a thought out stance on it so far.

I know a lot of instances are planning on preemptively blocking or defederating from threads, but I haven’t decided if that’s overkill or not.

I think it depends on if it ever actually happens, and also whether it ends up causing any issues. It probably won’t get blocked by default, but we also don’t want to get defederated and siloed from other instances.

What are your thoughts on it?

I’m hoping it will in a “show of good faith” type of way if nothing else, but I don’t know how much it truly holds up.

Also you might be interested, I just posted an update on https://eviltoast.org/post/543242 about updating the guidelines a little bit. Nothing’s really changing, but the latest drama did remind me to add a little coverage.

There are, but I think people are still leaning towards the bigger instances by default. Probably part of existing users on those instances recruiting more people and suggesting to use the same instance instead of finding a different one. A lot of reddit threads were linking directly to lemmy.world for example.

I saw some talk about lemmy clients implementing some sort of random sign-up where it puts new users on random instances, or at least shows a list of instances they could choose from. I’m not sure if that’s the solution, but it’d be an improvement imo.

Nope, we haven’t defederated from anyone (instances or communities), and as far as I know noone has defederated from us either.

https://eviltoast.org/instances would show blocked instances if there are any, but I’m not sure if there’s a public page somewhere that would show blocked/banned communities.

There’s also this tool, but I don’t know how accurate it is:

https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=eviltoast.org vs https://fba.ryona.agency/?domain=lemmy.world as an example

That’s very true, I’m not interested in constantly moderating a huge community. I do think it’d be nice to have a small community of chill folks though. Nothing like lemmy.world or the other big instances

Thanks! We like you too <3

I’m always open to suggestions and feedback if you have any. At the moment, we’re small enough to not really attract any drama and bs. I’ve been considering mentioning this instance in other places to try and get a few more users, but not too many. Even though there’s something like 100-200 users signed up, I think there are only <10 or so actual active users on average.

I haven’t read through all the comments, but it doesn’t look outdated. Upvotes/downvotes are stored in the lemmy database and also federated out to other instances, so instance admins would be able to see who upvoted/downvoted on what, even if it’s not your home instance.

Lemmy itself doesn’t expose that information through the UI or API afaict so mods wouldn’t see it, only whoever has access to the database itself.

But since the upvotes/downvotes are federated, other software like Kbin can see the same information and they do actually show who voted on something.

Definitely something to be cautious about. I’m not really sure what the solution to it will be, but I’d assume it’s something that would need to change in the ActivityPub protocol (used by lemmy/kbin/mastodon/etc) to come up with a way to federate aggregated vote tallies instead of each individual activity.