Server updated to Lemmy 0.18.1 - eviltoast

eviltoast.org has been upgraded to lemmy and lemmy-ui 0.18.1. Release notes copied below.

Release v0.18.1 Release · LemmyNet/lemmy · GitHub

What’s Changed

  • FeelzGoodMan420English
    2·
    1 year ago

    Wait something is still weird. I’m not seeing comments on other communities that I manually added. I can see them if i visit the instance directly but not through evil toast when loged in. Do you know what’s going on?

    • eviltoast adminOPMAEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      As far as I’ve seen so far, posts and comments only start showing up from the time you subscribe to a community. When you manually search for a specific community and subscribe to it, I think it does pull the last 20 or so posts, but not the comments for those posts. There’s no backfill or history fetching in lemmy.

      The script I’m using to pull in popular communities is the same as searching for each community it finds, so it doesn’t actually subscribe or pull posts either. I might try that for a few days though and see what happens, I’m not sure how much it’d cause the disk or network to explode.

      • FeelzGoodMan420English
        2·
        1 year ago

        Wait let me get this straight. If i subscribe to a large community, it only pulls in the last few comments and then it shows comments going forward? It doesn’t show historical comments?

        Is this by design of Lemmy? If so, that sounds like an odd design? Like say I join a techsupport community and I’m trying to search for how to fix something. I won’t be able to see all the old helpful comments unless I search for it on the actual instance it’s hosted on while NOT logged into an account on eviltoast? Seems like an odd design choice? Is it designed this way because Lemmy is still scaling and the devs didn’t want to overwhelm small instances with data?

        • eviltoast adminOPMAEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          You’ve got it right, I agree is kind of weird, but it looks like it is by design (so far): https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2825

          I’m waiting for some sort of “remote” search, I think that’d solve a lot of weird issues if we could get results from more than just the local instance.

          • FeelzGoodMan420English
            2·
            1 year ago

            Yea. I just don’t see how lemmy can possibly be a replacement to Reddit unless it pulls in historical comments/posts.

            • eviltoast adminOPMAEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              I agree. In its current form, it’s somewhat more similar to something like twitter (or mastodon) vs reddit, at least for newer small instances. I doubt they’ll make it so everything gets federated everywhere by default since that’d be pretty bandwidth and disk intensive, but it’d make sense to at least be able to show those historical threads.

              https://www.search-lemmy.com is trying to index all lemmy instances. https://github.com/marsara9/lemmy-search/issues/20 is open to track opening those search results inside your home lemmy instance. Maybe lemmy-ui or one of the other frontends will end up integrating with it so that you can search for anything and have it pull the results into the instance you’re using?

          • FeelzGoodMan420English
            2·
            1 year ago

            Also it incentivizes people to join really large old instances like lemmy.world or lemmy.ml rather than new smaller instances like yours. That isn’t right…