Do you refrain from participating to a community if it's hosted on Lemmy.ml ? - eviltoast

Asking as there has been a few comments mentioning this with the new !stardewvalley@lemm.ee taking over !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml

!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com for additional context on those recent events if you are interested

Also, an older post for more context on how lemmy.ml is managed: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417

Curious to hear other thoughts about this, as I’m trying to keep !simracing@lemmy.ml active, but might suggest to move it elsewhere if a lot of people prefer not to interact with lemmy.ml communities

  • ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    Previously no. Now yes. Apparently got banned for inciting ‘peril’ against my own race because tankies don’t know the difference between ethnically Chinese and of Chinese nationality, and apparently you can’t criticize china in the forums. Throw in a few abusive individuals from the same instance shooting off the mouth and I pretty much said fuck it, I’m out.

  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    lemmy.ml tends to have an immature userbase with immature mods. It’s a weird bubble of insane extremists that are all about ideological purity tests. They aren’t really interested in discussion and will ban anyone that doesn’t conform to their extremism. And their extremists are constantly edging towards stochastic terrorism.

    So needless to say, I’m banned from lemmy.ml, and I feel like that’s a badge of honour. But that does mean I won’t be engaging with any community that’s hosted on lemmy.ml.

    So if you want to have discussion that’s not about how super awesome the violent overthrow of the government of your country would be, I’d recommend not hosting your community on lemmy.ml.

  • N-E-N@lemmy.ca
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    23 hours ago

    I never pay attention to, or care about where a community is hosted

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    Yes. I find their gaming-chair leftism and obnoxious preachiness annoying enough to just avoid. My blocklist is filled with .ml users, and none of those were because of any political positions. It’s because they were annoying, whinging twats.

  • zod000@lemmy.ml
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    I have to say the responses in this thread are a bummer, but I’m not surprised. I signed up on lemmy.ml because when I read the descriptions of the various instances, ML’s “A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts” sounded pretty great and I saw a lot of technical communities that interested me. I didn’t expect the politics. I tried to make a new user on .world a few months back, but I seemed to get stuck in some sort of user verification limbo. Maybe I’ll try midwest.social since I moved to the midwest recently.

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        Dbzero and programming.dev are already also high on my list, but thanks for the recommendation. I’m not in a super hurry to move or anything, I’ve never been given a hard time on ML, but I hate to think I’m slowly being edged out of the wider lemmy experience.

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          slowly being edged out of the wider lemmy experience.

          If your home instance is lemmy.ml and it’s just people using communities on instances other than lemmy.ml, then you still get the full experience, unless you’re committed to only using locally-hosted communities or something.

          If instances are defederating with lemmy.ml, then you’re missing content.

          I don’t know of an easy way to get a list of which instances have defederated with a given instance. The information is public, and I wouldn’t be surprised if someone has a spider, like the lemmyverse.net one, that gathers it. But as things stand, it’s easy to, given an instance name, know which instances it has defederated from, but not which instances have defederated from it.

          • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            I don’t know of an easy way to get a list of which instances have defederated with a given instance.

            there’s a website out there showing exactly this,but for the life of me I can’t rememeber the URL >_<

        • AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca
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          .ca is good as well, the admin is top tier and very transparent with the userbase. I’m quite happy with my instance.

  • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.ca
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    Certainly. I have the entire instance blocked as their moderation, admins, and plenty of the users I’ve interacted with are unpleasant. It’s no Hexbear or Grad, but it’s enough that my experience is better without their communities.

  • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee
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    Yes, but not really deliberately. I catch the instance ban hammer from their fragile admins so often I never get established in any of their comms

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    If the conversation is civil I’ll comment occasionally, but i don’t think I’d care if my instance defederated from them. They’re where a lot of tech related conversations are, sadly.

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      Tbh the bigger instances need to bite the bullet and defederate from .ml. There are alternatives to all the good comms on .ml, they just aren’t as active. Defederating would move a lot of users onto the alternatives and get some control back from the terrible .ml mods and admins.

      Banning people from multiple completely unrelated comms for something that happened in one comm is bullshit and they abuse the hell out of that. I generally try not to participate in any .ml comm because of that.

  • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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    Of course.

    They banned me for calling Russia imperialist in one of their rant post, and claiming NATO was necessary because countries keep invading their neighbors.

  • StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org
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    I generally don’t worry about communities. Either the community is well run or not.

    Users, though. I’ll block trolls all day long. If I notice I’m blocking a whole bunch of users from the same instance, I’ll block the instance. So far that has only happened twice. Lemmygrad and feddit.ro.

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    This is something that that bothers me… I joined lemmy.ml around 3 years ago as one of the pirate subs on reddit made a backup community there in case they were banned.

    Fast forward to the api debacle, I started to use lemmy as a permanent alternative, and made 3 of my favourite art communities- abstract photography, collage and printmaking

    It’s always been in the back (and sometimes the front of my mind) whether to move them elsewhere, partly because people commenting on their ‘blanket ban’ of lemmy.ml, and the fact that I sometimes feel that I’m on one of the ‘pariah’ instances.

    It’s interesting reading the comments here, especially considering the art communities are laid back, without politics, and haven’t had any issues (so far)…

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      For me it was a blanket ban that finally caused me to unsubscribe from every ml community. If it wasn’t for that then it might be OK to keep hosting a non-political sub but the censorship over there is so aggressive and widespread that it’s very difficult to avoid.

      I would say think about migration because if anything the problem is getting worse over time.

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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    Depends on the community and what has been posted. If it’s something simple like AskLemmy and people aren’t being super weird or preachy about communism or whatever, I don’t find harm. I personally don’t think I’ve had any bad experiences with them outside of the time I said I didn’t trust a certain news outlet, which I cannot remember the name of.

  • cacheson@piefed.social
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    Yes, I block lemmy.ml communities when I notice them, just because I don’t want to accidentally contribute anything to that instance. Some of the users are okay, but the admins are not.

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    If there’s an overlapping or related community on another instance, I’ll avoid using the .ml version of that community