Quick digging: source appears to be a reddit post from LA that is light on details. This is voter fraud if true but a grain of salt is warranted I believe.
Assuming someone or some group of people are actually putting these in mailboxes to try to trick people, this is multiple federal felonies. It’s election fraud, and it’s a felony to tamper with a mailbox, mail fraud, I would guess conspiracy to commit fraud, and perhaps more.
If true, I sincerely hope someone’s doorbell camera catches them in the act.
Depends. I feel like the fact that the packaging doesn’t explicitly state anything about using it for election mail is their loophole to say they never intended to trick anyone.
It’s so thinly-veiled it’s disgusting…but the courts are still stacked by Trump appointees who will let his supporters get away with nearly anything.
And that’s the argument that would have to be decided in court. But with the conservative bias in judicial outcomes and the “guilty beyond reasonable doubt” prerequisite for determining felony status, I am not holding out much hope that anyone will actually see jail time for this. I don’t even know if this would get to the point where there’d be a trial, to be honest.
People get unsolicited mail all the time, and as long as the sender paid their postage, the government typically doesn’t give a shit.
Quick digging: source appears to be a reddit post from LA that is light on details. This is voter fraud if true but a grain of salt is warranted I believe.
Here’s a pic of the back, according to the Reddit poster: https://imgur.com/y9XaKlr
Assuming someone or some group of people are actually putting these in mailboxes to try to trick people, this is multiple federal felonies. It’s election fraud, and it’s a felony to tamper with a mailbox, mail fraud, I would guess conspiracy to commit fraud, and perhaps more.
If true, I sincerely hope someone’s doorbell camera catches them in the act.
Depends. I feel like the fact that the packaging doesn’t explicitly state anything about using it for election mail is their loophole to say they never intended to trick anyone.
It’s so thinly-veiled it’s disgusting…but the courts are still stacked by Trump appointees who will let his supporters get away with nearly anything.
Fair point.
Ok, so why did you distribute these?
And that’s the argument that would have to be decided in court. But with the conservative bias in judicial outcomes and the “guilty beyond reasonable doubt” prerequisite for determining felony status, I am not holding out much hope that anyone will actually see jail time for this. I don’t even know if this would get to the point where there’d be a trial, to be honest.
People get unsolicited mail all the time, and as long as the sender paid their postage, the government typically doesn’t give a shit.
They could just be posting about it on social media? I feel like even that would be enough to dissuade some people to put their ballot in the mail.
The Presidential Coalition is, and you’ll be shocked to learn it, a non profit organisation to support the conservative republican party.
“The Presidential Coalition”
Searching DDG with quotes returns nothing. However, and this may just be a coincidence, the related searches are… interesting.
Edit, per a Mastodon reply:
https://www.presidentialcoalition.com/about-us/david-bossie-the-presidential-coalition-founder/
The fuck responsible for Citizens United!? So tying that with what people are saying about all the felonies that this would fall under:
But who am I kidding, these fucks never suffer consequences…
Vecause these stories stay on the internet and are never reported to the authorities…
OP should mail back an airtag and see where it ends up eventually.
Address is likely made up and its not meant to arrive anywhere.
It’s probably a real PO Box otherwise the mail might bounce back to the sender giving them a chance to still put it in a drop box.
There’s no return address on the envelope, so it wouldn’t be returned to anyone.
Then the FEC could just find out who owns that PO box and arrest them.
If the FEC had enough people on the board who were against election fraud they might do something about it.
Los Angeles? Pretty confident none of their big races are gonna be turned by this
This whole thing seems like rage bait to me.