This line of analysis really highlights just how incompetent Trump is at being fascist.
Most seasoned politicians are more like Vance and can sell their reactionary policy in all the nice language liberals like to use.
It also highlights how fucked the US is once Trump becomes irrelevant, because any one of the more competent fascists could potentially take his place, and Trump has set the bar so low that just about anyone else will be able to clear it.
Maybe all the wannabe fachos’ll all infight to death?
One can hope right?
This line of analysis really highlights just how incompetent Trump is at being fascist.
I’ve got to disagree. This isn’t incompetence, its a deliberate strategy. One candidate plays the Nice Polite Republican and the other whips the base.
Traditionally, you get your aw shucks Good’ole’Boy on the front of the ticket - your Bush, your McCain, your Romney - and the nail-eating red meat psychopath as VP - Cheney / Palin / Ryan. In this particular election, Trump’s press is so bad that Vance looks sane by comparison. And the debate was an opportunity to really layer the mask on thick to calm the rubs into thinking he’s the normal one.
any one of the more competent fascists could potentially take his place
Just look at the primary ballot. Your options ranged from the vindictive culture-war sadists DeSantis and Christie to the neocon forever war hawks Hailey and Scott, with a few paleocons and grifters sprinkled in the margins.
Then there’s the ones who didn’t run - Abbot and Cruz down in Texas are both gunning for the Presidency in 2028. All these people suck.
I just don’t see anyone on the Dem side of the aisle who is going to do better than Hilary did in 2016, once Trump is off the stage.
In my personal opinion trump isn’t ideologically fascist. I would consider him opportunistically fascist.
I believe he wields his rhetoric for his own personal gain. I’m thinking he would just as quickly change his rhetoric if it advantaged him.
None of what I’ve seen from the current GOP tells me any one of them has the same saucy charisma as trumf. He’s not built like them, his defining trait with the GOP is that he’s a garbage human being.
I think this way of viewing fascism is misleading. All fascist leaders use it to gain power - it is the willingness to use force against the out-group and hyper-nationalism that helps them solidify their position. It is the belief that doing so will make their country ‘great’ that is the ideological underpinning, and Trump absolutely fits that description.
I think he’s just really bad at it.
I think part of it, too, was calibrating himself to go up against Walz. He was gollygeewashed.
He is a weasel politician with no real stance on anything.
A failed (at everything) businessman and a pure politician…good job maga.
I really hope these motherfuckers lose. I’m so tired of hearing about them every day.
We should’ve been done with this shit almost 4 years ago. Trump and everyone else that participated in Jan 6 should’ve been rotting in prison cells by now.
unfortunately rich people are coddled by the justice system in the US. It doesn’t help Citizens United is allowing piles of money to set everything on fire.
As a European I’m so tired of this bullshit, must be crazy over there.
Just go out and vote, okay pretty please?
From the east, go out and vote… These fuckers have taken everything for granted
The fact is, Trump has said rising sea levels means “a little more beachfront property” and suggested the noise from wind power “causes cancer.” Vance can’t wash those comments away.
Lunacy and I’m glad it’s being pointed out, but it’s not in a publication that anyone who needs to see it will visit.
Its clear there are no moral lines with vance. If Trump said “somebody should stab JD vance hundreds, thousands of times with a knife” Vance would try to agree with it. He’s such a greasy little weasel.
And they want this little shit weasel to take the reins if Trump is ever incapacitated or kicks the bucket. Pence was insufferable but this void of human emotion or empathy would literally sell out to the highest bidder while on a hot mic.
Little more than four years from now, the insurrectionist crowd will be chanting “hang JD Vance”. And JD Vance will chant along.
He has the moral compass of a windsock
That’s a damn good line. Totally stealing it.
Why not 4 months instead of 4 years?
Probably more realistic, I was just working out of the premise that history would repeat itself.
“Ya see what Donald Trump said was that I’m hung, but that’s not how the Haitian illegal fentanyl traffickers, let in by the non-existent Border Czar, should’ve done that in the last 3 1/2 years.”
-JD Vance (probably)
He’s certainly a skeevy little weirdo
Vance came off as very likeable. He lied a bunch thats not the point, he was likeable for a lot of people. That matters more than policy sadly.
Vance is dangerous now that he just seems to be a weird okay guy. No one who watched the debate can say Tim won. They both won but vance more so.
He lied a bunch thats not the point
This is the problem right here
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