Weird question from a weird guy - eviltoast
  • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    The fact is, the proposed agreement in this hypothetical is a private contract which, for the most part, is fine and acceptable under common law pretty much everywhere.

    Uh. No. That’s not correct. That’s not even remotely correct.

    You can’t have a private contract for an act that is illegal. This isn’t a contract for marriage. This is a contract for sex. Moreover, it’s a contract for sex with a person that can not legally consent to sex.

    WTF is wrong with you?

      • LustyArgonian@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        This isn’t completely true, children actually can be married at that age including to adults in some states. There’s also no such thing as statutory rape between spouses in this circumstance. The kid’s spouse also usually become their guardian, so they cannot get divorced without the adult spouse’s permission in many places.

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            3 months ago

            That’s alright, I kinda used your comment to spread awareness about child marriage in the US. I want people to know so they can vote to ban it. Overwhelmingly most voters in the US do want to ban child marriage but they don’t even realize it exists.

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              3 months ago

              Hey, it’s a good cause. I’m not mad about it. Child marriage is a disgrace and people should be made aware that it still exists and who it is that is fighting for it to continue.

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      3 months ago

      This isn’t strictly true, in some states you can marry kids. And they make an exception for statutory rape if it occurs between spouses.

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      3 months ago

      The legality of paying for intimate acts varies wildly from country to country and even in the USA, from state to state.

      I make no judgement about what is considered legal or not in any given area.

      I’m mostly thinking about the common law of marrying off young persons. In many places the lower limit on how old you must be to marry, is shocking. Marrying a 14 year old isn’t unheard of, even in developed countries. I just don’t draw a significant distinction between being married at such a young age, and being paid for intercourse at the same age. Marriage at that age may be arguably more “legal” depending on the jurisdiction, but in my mind, you’re not marrying a 14 year old for their hobbies, or personality. The only reason, again, that I can think of, where someone would propose to be married to someone so young, is if the person proposing the marriage is a similar age, or if they want to have sexual relations with someone who is that young.

      So for me the line is blurred and I often conflate the point in my mind.

      More to the point, statutory rape generally requires that the parents are opposed to the sexual acts. Otherwise, charges are generally not pressed against the offender. Again, this varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. To that end, if you have the written consent of the parents to engage in sexual acts with someone who is below the age where they can legally make such decisions, then it might be legal, again, depending on the jurisdiction.

      This is entirely, and completely commentary from a neutral standpoint. Personally, I think anyone who would seek such an arrangement needs to see a therapist, or be locked up. Morally, I don’t agree with it, but often, the law does not conform to my sense of morality.

      I’m just saying, I understand that some places allow for these kinds of contracts to exist. I’m not saying I agree with it at all, because I don’t. I can’t imagine any situation where a father, or mother, would willingly subject their child to that situation, unless they were truly and utterly desperate… But the matter of their desperation for money to survive, is an entirely different discussion.

      • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
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        3 months ago

        The legality of paying for intimate acts varies wildly from country to country and even in the USA, from state to state.

        It is 100% illegal in ever single state in the US to pay for sex with someone that is below not only the age of majority, but also the age of consent. The minimum age of consent in the US is 14.

        More to the point, statutory rape generally requires that the parents are opposed to the sexual acts.

        1000% false, in every single case. It may be more difficult to prosecute without parental involvement, but it is not required. Statutory rape is a strict liability crime; no mens rea is required. And bluntly, any prosecutor that failed to deal with an underage prostitution case would lose their job in the next election; “soft on child sex crimes” isn’t a winning platform.