Ocean water is rushing miles underneath the ‘Doomsday Glacier’ with potentially dire impacts on sea level rise - eviltoast
  • frickineh@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    People in FL complaining about not being able to get insurance, this is why. The whole state’s gonna be underwater.

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      6 months ago

      On one hand, this will fucking suck…however, no one will be able to argue that global warming isn’t real as this will be the very real consequences to ignoring climate change.

      • krashmo@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        no one will be able to argue that global warming isn’t real

        There is no amount of catastrophic weather or other directly observable evidence that will ever make this statement true. There certainly should be, but the fact remains that many will deny climate change even as it destroys their lives or kills them. I don’t like it but that’s the world we live in.

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          From what I’ve read, there are a few things that change people’s beliefs. Fact is not one of them. What your in-group believes is a big factor. So if we could murder fox news, we’d probably do the world a lot of good.

          But the other thing that apparently can push people into reevaluating their beliefs? Horrific, personal, trauma. Someone who’s whole town was destroyed by climate change might be shaken up enough to rethink their world view. Maybe.

          You could also maybe trigger the effect by beating the living shit out of a climate change denier, because being dragged out of their coal-rolling truck and being beaten so badly they’ll never walk again would be traumatic.

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            But the other thing that apparently can push people into reevaluating their beliefs? Horrific, personal, trauma. Someone who’s whole town was destroyed by climate change might be shaken up enough to rethink their world view. Maybe.

            Your first point needs to happen first otherwise this scenario just gets spun into “stupid liberals want you to think it’s humans doing this, it’s just natural cycles the earth goes through. Look back millions of years and you’ll see a period where average temperatures were 90°! Do you want to let liberals charge you more for Beautiful Gasoline™ over a lie!?”

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          Not entirely true in my anecdotal experience. Most of the original deniers I know personally now say that climate change is real, just that it’s not man-made and there’s nothing we can do about it. I remember around a few years ago I even convinced my boss that climate change is in fact real (he couldn’t come up with a valid reason to explain picture and video evidence), but he refuses to accept humans are causing it. It’s still equally frustrating, nonetheless.

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            6 months ago

            I mean, is that functionally any different? They’re still going with their own “alternate facts” over listening to scientists. They’re still refusing to support politicians and/or policies that might give us a shot at avoiding the worst of the problem. If they’re still doing all the same shit then nothing has changed.

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              6 months ago

              Right, I was just pointing out that there are plenty who do believe in climate change, but are still missing/refusing to see the underlying cause and support reform.

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            6 months ago

            I have a friend that claims climate change is not man made. He always talks about volcanos and ice ages. Does anyone know what evidence I can actually hand him to show him man’s contribution is the leading cause?

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        6 months ago

        You’re assuming these people have principles and integrity, but they don’t. They’ll just blame the government for allowing it to happen/not providing them enough assistance.

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        6 months ago

        It also means most of Florida is going to be exported to other states. I don’t think anyone (including FL) wants that.

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        6 months ago

        Where does Florida Man ™️ go when his trailer is underwater? Is he now Georgia Man or Mississippi Man?

        This is a migration that I don’t think people want

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        6 months ago

        I too think that the people with real power will only really care if they are themselves affected.