As I recall the shift started after it became clear that Ukrainian offensive failed, we had a few months where they were trying to sell a frozen conflict after that, and now we’re finally transitioning to the acceptance phase of grief where they’re admitting that Russia is winning.
I’m also curious if they go back and edit some of the articles after the fact, not because I know that is done, but because that’s what I would do if I was them
like that english general during WWI keeping two diaries while he fed hundreds of thousands of young men into the meat grinder, one for him and one for posterity
it’s a bit harder to do cause of the internet archive, sometimes they will go edit or cut stuff, but that runs the risk of triggering Streisand effect making the situation even worse.
Thing is, I don’t they care about the Streisand effect. Remember when it came out that Merkel had no intention to actually follow Minsk agreement and it was just a ploy to pump weapons into Ukraine? It wasn’t met with stress or displeasure. It was met with “Yes, it is a great idea, it was a correct course of action, they should have send more weapons”
They don’t care as long as they can control the narrative which relies on majority of people having fairly strong confidence in mainstream media. We’re now seeing this confidence collapsing. For example, WSJ editor in chief moans about the problem here
And as it’s becoming increasingly clear that the west lost the war, people are naturally starting to question why the media has been telling them everything is going great for the past two years. On top of that, people are starting to connect the war with the decline in their own material conditions. This is why we’re seeing massive riots across Europe happening. Everybody was told that they just had to suck it up for a little while, and in the end Russia would be defeated, and things would be great. Now people see that their lives got ruined for nothing.
And it just keeps getting worse. Now you have countries like Germany and Britain telling people there might be a draft cause Russia is so strong and scary. So, the opposite of what was promised has been achieved. The whole premise was to make Ukraine fight the war for the west and weaken Russia. Now the west finds itself in a situation where Ukraine is collapsing, and Russia is stronger than ever.
My expectation that we’ll be seeing a collapse of confidence both in the western regimes and their propagandists happening over the next few years.
It’s cause the entire political class in EU decides to go all in on the war. Once the war is lost, a lot of these people will become politically toxic and it’s going to be career ending for them. They’re scared and desperate at this point because they see the writing on the wall, they see the US abandoning them, and they’re now realizing that Trump whom they have terrible relations with will most likely win the election. So, they’re just doing the sunk cost fallacy and trying to keep this thing going as long as humanly possible.
The whole stalemate narrative fell apart pretty quick I gotta say.
would be interesting to put together a timeline of the narrative shift in the large outlets
As I recall the shift started after it became clear that Ukrainian offensive failed, we had a few months where they were trying to sell a frozen conflict after that, and now we’re finally transitioning to the acceptance phase of grief where they’re admitting that Russia is winning.
I’m also curious if they go back and edit some of the articles after the fact, not because I know that is done, but because that’s what I would do if I was them
like that english general during WWI keeping two diaries while he fed hundreds of thousands of young men into the meat grinder, one for him and one for posterity
it’s a bit harder to do cause of the internet archive, sometimes they will go edit or cut stuff, but that runs the risk of triggering Streisand effect making the situation even worse.
Thing is, I don’t they care about the Streisand effect. Remember when it came out that Merkel had no intention to actually follow Minsk agreement and it was just a ploy to pump weapons into Ukraine? It wasn’t met with stress or displeasure. It was met with “Yes, it is a great idea, it was a correct course of action, they should have send more weapons”
They don’t care as long as they can control the narrative which relies on majority of people having fairly strong confidence in mainstream media. We’re now seeing this confidence collapsing. For example, WSJ editor in chief moans about the problem here
And as it’s becoming increasingly clear that the west lost the war, people are naturally starting to question why the media has been telling them everything is going great for the past two years. On top of that, people are starting to connect the war with the decline in their own material conditions. This is why we’re seeing massive riots across Europe happening. Everybody was told that they just had to suck it up for a little while, and in the end Russia would be defeated, and things would be great. Now people see that their lives got ruined for nothing.
And it just keeps getting worse. Now you have countries like Germany and Britain telling people there might be a draft cause Russia is so strong and scary. So, the opposite of what was promised has been achieved. The whole premise was to make Ukraine fight the war for the west and weaken Russia. Now the west finds itself in a situation where Ukraine is collapsing, and Russia is stronger than ever.
My expectation that we’ll be seeing a collapse of confidence both in the western regimes and their propagandists happening over the next few years.
the EU, in reaction to reality seeping through the cracks in their propaganda, has decided to double down on this shit though.
when even the US is trying to quietly drop this shit and pivot to israel, the EU just keeps hitting itself in the face with a hammer. WHY? WHY?
It’s cause the entire political class in EU decides to go all in on the war. Once the war is lost, a lot of these people will become politically toxic and it’s going to be career ending for them. They’re scared and desperate at this point because they see the writing on the wall, they see the US abandoning them, and they’re now realizing that Trump whom they have terrible relations with will most likely win the election. So, they’re just doing the sunk cost fallacy and trying to keep this thing going as long as humanly possible.