Good “Buy for Life” Brands - eviltoast

Some that come to mind are:

Benchmade - knives Darn Tough - socks Carhartt - good work gear Doc martens - footwear

What are some good reputable brands that you have had for 5 years + with little to no issues or with a lifetime warranty.

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      Can back this up as someone who used to wear them daily at a dealership job.

      Don’t know if I’m getting old or they changed something but they’re just not as good/comfortable.

      Can’t speak on if they wear down any faster however, didn’t get that far.

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        Doc Martens got sold and moved the production to Asia. The dip in quality is very noticeable.

        The people who used to produce Doc Martens now work for the company called Solovair. I haven’t tried their stuff butt apparently they’re as good as Doc Martens used to be.

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          Having worn Doc Martens most of my life i’ve now switched to Solivair, last pair of ‘Docs’ i bought wore through the upper in 6 months and ripped my feet to shreds, the Solovair i replaced them with are still like new after a year and are the comfiest boots i’ve ever worn.

          The only downside is explaining why you’re wearing ‘knock off Docs’ to hipsters, but i generally go with ‘They’re Doc Martens with all the Vietnamese Child Labour taken out (allegedly)’

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            i would loooove to get a pair of solovairs, but i can’t get over the slight silhouette change where the “ceiling” part of the boot (i know nothing about shoe anatomy terms) has a slight bend inwards as it reaches down and connects with the “floor” :(

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              I’m not sure what bit you mean, I have the classic 8 hole boots and the shape is the same from my perspective?

              There are differences as i went Matte finish for the Solovairs and obviously the stiching is a different colour (smooth sided sole too) but i’m more concerned about the quality/fit/longevity of my boots than the Docs aethetic anyway.

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                Yeah, the iconic yellow stitching on Docs is likely trademarked, Solovairs are grey stitching.

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          Same thing happened with Blundtstone. Production moved from Tasmania to Vietnam. They swear everything is the same, but I’m looking at these two different pairs of boots …

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        They definitely are not really good anymore: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOzFLT3S_I6UHHrezPiQ4VS_y3Pj09Zvd

        You’re probably better off wearing something like Red Wing’s Iron Rangers, though there’s multiple brands that are pretty good. Meermin comes to mind for Europeans. Solovair if you’re really into the Dr Martens look.

        /r/goodyearwelt used to be a good resource for shoe stuff, not really sure if there’s something comparable on Lemmy yet.

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          Didn’t know about Solovair, much appreciated!

          I’ve kept a pair of Docs around because I still think they make a great fashion staple, but having a pair that could actually be comfortable/good again would be amazing

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      My opinion is they were garbage in the 80s/90s too. I would wear the soles down like an eraser in a matter of months. Warranty or not, that’s not bifl to me.

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        That’s kind of the nature of the soles they use, but there’s not really such thing as a sole that won’t wear (and if there were, it probably wouldn’t be comfortable to walk on). Instead high quality boots are made to have the sole be easily replaceable using constructions like Goodyear welt, stitchdown, and Blake.

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        I have that problem with all kinds of shoes and trainers, regardless of the price tag. I bought a pair of Adidas Men’s Hoops 3.0 a few months back and to my surprise, the soles haven’t worn down on them yet.

        But I feel like it’s only a matter of time until a hole starts developing in the soles, which means they’re gonna be waterlogged in any kind of wet weather.

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      Yes, they got rid of the lifetime warranty and I personally haven’t worn them, but people tell me their old ones work well and have a similar opinion as yours.

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      Danner is my go-to brand for quality boots.

      I’ve been issues a lot of boots from work and the Danners are the most comfortable by far. They made it through some real shit, too.

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        Love my danners but I still go through a pair a year with my current job. Last job I got about 5 years out of a pair.

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          Oof, that’s rough.

          It really depends on the job, I guess. I wore the Danner Reckonings for about 2 years straight and they were a little rough looking but still in great shape. The tip of the boot where the sole curves up the front was starting to peel. The worst I did with them was mountain climbing and some very wet environments.

          Some of the dudes I worked with were sent to an area with a lot of lava rock, which absolutely shreds boots.

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            I wear the Quarry composite toes but mine peeled like that too. I work in rubber manufacturing and it just eats the shit out of everything.

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      They have a model that’s still made in England and comes with a lifetime warranty, everything else is trash

      Edit: they discontinued it, weak

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    Doc Martens are now Chinese made IIRC and don’t last.

    Solovair is the the company that used to make Martens and you can still buy that style there. I hear they’re much better than Martens, but also occasionally a mixed review that they didn’t last very long.

    I’ll offer a mixed review for carhartt…while they used to be strictly workwear, they’ve started putting up retail spaces in designer clothing areas. Prices have shot up. I had a belt from them that fell apart pretty quick with normal wear. Got a work shirt that’s doing pretty good though. IMO they’re headed down the same road as a lot of brands that get popular - price hikes with decreased quality.

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      I’ll offer a mixed review for carhartt…while they used to be strictly workwear, they’ve started putting up retail spaces in designer clothing areas.

      Carhartt and Carhartt Work in Progress are two different brands, the former is the good workwear one, the later is the designer fashionable stuff. Stick to their non WIP stuff

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      Slight correction: From my understanding, Solovair is the company that purchased the cobbling machinery/factory that DocMartens sold off when they fully off-shored. DocMartens then contracted with them for their limited release, price-inflated, Made in UK boots. As the designs are long out of patent, Solovair also manufactures their own. I see Docs at a 15% markup, just for the name.

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      Carhartt WIP is designer workwear, modern cuts and softer, higher quality materials that aren’t designed to withstand harsh labor.

      Carhartt standard is still classic workwear.

      I’ve needed to use Carhartt standard recently and it’s still good, relatively affordable and very durable workwear.

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      I just got some Carhartt “wool” socks for Christmas. They are pilling like crazy after 1-2 wears/washes. They’re less than half wool, so that might be the issue.

      I do WFH and I don’t wear shoes in the house, but that’s literally why I wanted wool socks.

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        I asked my parents for wool socks for Christmas twenty years ago and they gave me a few pairs each of three or four different brands. The ones that have lasted the longest and include a lifetime warranty is Redhead from Bass Pro. I’ve only exchanged them once or twice. They’re tall and thick with high pile wool. I’ve worn a pair almost every day for probably nine months out of the year, sometimes year-round, ever since I got them.

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    Lenovo ThinkPads

    I bought an old model in 2013 and it lived in my backpack through 7 years of school and university. It was dropped hard enough to permanently bend the heatsink, the disk drive cover snapped off, and it regularly overheated from throwing it in my bag without turning it off. It ran windows, dozens of Linux distros (up to 3 at once) and now it’s a hackintosh for when I need a Mac. I’m confident I could buy spare parts and repair it myself if anything important broke.

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      Yes, OLD Lenovo thinkpads.

      Buy yourself a used T400-T430 (and models of that age) if you don’t have very big computing requirements, they are 10+ years old and they will last you another 10+.

      If you buy a Lenovo from the last 7-8 years you will get an overpriced piece of junk.

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      I have to take exception to that because I bought a Lenovo ThinkPad in 2018, barely ever used it and now it won’t even turn on.

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        If it won’t power on at all you might need to let it charge overnight and then try again

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        This is no exception. Thinkpad used to be great years (decade?) ago. The stuff they have produced in recent years is crap. I had two work laptops in the last 4 years and both are absolutely terrible compared to the old stuff.

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          Yeah when I took my issue to Lenovo customer service, their first response was that my laptop has reached the end of its usable lifespan. 5 years!? I’m not wealthy and that thing cost me $1,500 and I will never be able to afford another laptop again.

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            consumer electronics are engineered for 3 years of use.

            I bought a Lenovo 82k100lqus and I baby it. I try not to even open it or plug or unplug anything. external peripherals with a powered USB hub let me get away with this most of the time.

            and I still think it’s going to break exactly 3 years into it’s life. I can hope not, tho.

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        They are going downhill and less user serviceable these days. Talking T series, the old workhorse. Older ones are still good.

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      I was extremely skeptical when IBM spun off that division but time has proved me wrong. The Lenovo rinkpads have been much better than I ever expected them to be.

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      I have a 2011 Dell latitude that’s a similar story. It’s a jellyfin server now

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    Doc martens are not so great quality now. The general consensus is that Solovair are the spiritual successor (in terms of quality) to what Dr Martens were. This video has more info: https://youtu.be/vkhCcvfVHRs?si=21bH9fSvkNgmjwm1

    For laptops O would recommend framework laptops. The idea is that they have upgradable and repairable.modules. You can follow them on mastodon too: @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org And we have a Lemmy community too: !framework@lemmy.ml

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    JanSport backpacks. My wife had the zipper wear out on the backpack she has had for ~20 years. She contacted the manufacturer. They don’t make that particular bag anymore so they just sent her a comparable equivalent with almost no questions asked.

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      Yup they will just send you a new one. I’ve been using the same black jansport bag for > 5 years. As far as I can see the new ones they sent has the same quality as more than 5 years ago.

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      Was looking for this.

      Always bought Patagonia, and they just repaired a 26-year-old ski vest for me, for free, as the inner lining was falling apart.

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      Red Wing’s imported footware isn’t at all durable. They do still have some models made in Minnesota that are supposed to live up to their reputation.

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      We bought a bag less vacuum 4 years ago. The turbo brush for pet hair stats showing some wear but the whole thing works solid to this day. Even the flimsy feeling handle is still fine Edit: EU - Germany

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      In my experience, much better than Siemens/Bosch.

      Unlike those, Miele doesn’t seem to have entry-level-priced equipment that just sucks in term of quality.

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        Nothing wrong with both Siemens or Bosch (or Miele). But Miele’s do break down too. My friend’s recent Miele Twindos washingmachine’s sensor died after only 2 years just outside guarantee, seems to be a fairly common problem with twindos machines. Expensive to repair too. 1400 Euro washing machine.

        We have a Siemens iq500 dishwasher, an iq300 washing machine and dryer that run reliable for over 10 years. 3 appliances for about the same price as my friends Miele.

        Also you get what you pay for and a lot of consumers can’t afford 1400 euro for a washing machine anyway or pay for the expensive repairs. Comparing entry level with top tier hardware on brand suckability seems quite odd.

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    i kind of can’t believe how long my Seasonic PSU is lasting. It’s been on continuously for the last like, 12 years. unreal

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      Have you tried unplugging it with things powered on to make sure the battery is working? The batteries are supposed to be replaced every couple years, I found out when I started having power outages last winter and my (seasonic) PSU just turned off when the power flickered and PC was running. I bought a replacement battery off Amazon for cheap and it was easy to swap out.

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        PSU is different than UPS. PSU is the Power Supply Unit and doesn’t have a battery. UPS are Uninterruptable Power Supplies and do have batteries. Seasonic only makes PSU’s.

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    For the Euros- if you need to replace any parts in your toilet, buy Geberit.

    I frequently have to replace cheap flush mechanisms and filler valves, and I always replace with Geberit.

    I have Geberit flush mechanisms that were installed in the 80s and if they start to leak, you pop them out and replace a washer. No tools required

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    Speed queen washers and dryers. LGs and Samsung’s drop like flies in comparison. They are expensive but they are made in the United States and last donkeys years. I’ve heard of people moving out after 10 years, and taking their speed queen dryer with them.

    Also, in general, hand made Japanese knives. Any knife will keep cutting if sharpened but most of “sharpness” is thinness of the blade. That’s why we don’t use meat cleavers for daily prep. Japanese knives are made to be thinned and polished, as the edge will become thicker with repeated sharpenings. Other knives will get thicker and thicker and become complete carrot crunchers. These can be thinned too but it’s much more difficult with only sharpening stones.

    Additionally the handles are easily replaceable by anyone, western style handles require destructive disassembly of the existing scales and rivets.

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      Japanese knives are great if that’s your preference but that excludes a lot of other BIFL knives worth considering.

      Wusthof in particular should be on the list as well as Global. In general kitchen knives are more forgiving in the BIFL category because a lot of it is just properly caring for what you have.

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        I’ve had wusthof handles break on me and they are a pain to replace. You have to drill the rivets, remove the scales, glue new ones, drill new rivet holes, hammer new rivets and then shape them. With Japanese knives you tap the handle off and put in a whole new one.

        Another issue with wusthof is that the bolsters on their chef knives are way too large. They weigh the know down and makes it annoying to sharpen. Over time it will develop a recurve and won’t contact the cutting board. Your only option is to grind it down, which is a big endeavor because they’re so damn big nowadays.

        They’re still great knives but because of those issues that Japanese knives don’t have, they aren’t the best BIFL option for me.

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          I get that everybody has their own preference but BIFL is more about quality of materials, durability, reputation of the company etc.

          I’ve had wusthof handles break on me and they are a pain to replace.

          How so? You just send it to Wusthof and they replace or repair it. Seems pretty BIFL

          Another issue with wusthof is that the bolsters on their chef knives are way too large.

          My Wusthof Ikons have no more bolster than my brothers Japanese set. I assume you’re talking about the Classic line of Wusthof?

          You raise issues based on your preference but that doesn’t impact them being BIFL. They’re well made, hold an edge and Wusthof stands behind them 100%.

          I dropped my utility knife once and it bent the tip. I shipped it to Wusthof and they took care of it, only cost me shipping. I also had a knife block that split, for that they wanted a picture, then they shipped me a replacement and asked me to destroy the old one. I used it in a campfire. Seems pretty BIFL to me.

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      Speed queen washers and dryers.

      This is the one to pay attention to. Speed Queen is what every laundromat uses, because they’re fucking rock solid and don’t need a lot of maintenance. They don’t have as many bells and whistles as a Samsung, but they’ll outlast two or three Samsungs and still be cleaning just as well as the day you bought it.

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        They also cost as much as 3 samsungs. I am all for buy-it-for-life, but when I can buy a nice Samsung with bells and whistles, have a better wash, lower energy use, and more flexible options on how the clothing is being washed- then why would I not buy the Samsung? My Samsung washer was 800 and the dryer was 600. A speed queen starts at 2400 each. I could buy 3 washers and then 4 dryers for that. Plus I save money on the energy cost with my Samsung eco settings.

        I have a house filled with buy it for life where I can and where it makes sense. And when I bought the washer and dryers I looked into speedqueen. It didn’t make sense. And before people start saying things like “good luck replacing them in 3 years” they are already 5 years old. My 1400$ is 5 years in and doing just fine.they could break today and need to both be replaced, and I am still ahead. I think speed queen is one of the few BIFL brands that I disagree with.

      • 🔰Hurling⚜️Durling🔱@lemmy.world
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        They outlast BEACAUSE they don’t have that many bells and whistles.

        Give me an old whirlpool from 15-20 years ago, those things where tanks before they started making them “Smart”

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    I’ll throw a weird one in here. If you want to do any smart home automation stuff, Lutron. Their stuff is famously bulletproof and generally “just works” and almost never needs troubleshooting.

    It can be a little pricy for a light switch, but it will work with just about any platform you want to use. Also, all of their wireless switches work without internet.

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          100% you don’t want WiFi smart home devices.

          WiFi is really handy because it’s easy and accessible, but as you add devices, you wind up with WiFi network issues.
          Because these devices can just talk to the internet, they can talk to their manufacturer’s websites and tell them everything they learn about you from your network, such as all the other devices on your network, any open file sharing protocols (and the files on those devices), any other devices that are willing to talk to the WiFi device. So - literally - everything on your network becomes exposed to the manufacturer of the device. It’s unlikely the manufacturer would be nefarious, but they would extract all your data.
          And if the device has poor security, opens a port to the outside world, or - as I discovered this weekend on my soundbar - just has a root ssh shell with no password requirement, it could pose a security risk to you and your devices.

          …. And I just remembered outbound federation is currently broken on my instance and maybe one person will actually see this comment. Fuck.

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        Flexibility. A hardwired switch is choosing your lighting configuration at build time, but when you have light bulbs that can all be controlled individually through software, then you want a switch that can interact with that software.

        For instance, let’s say you do something crazy and unprecedented like add a lamp to your room, with hardwired switches now you either have two switchs in two different spots to deal with every time you enter a room, or you need to call an electrician to wire up a switched plug. If your switch was instead a software switch you could just reprogram it to also control the lamp.

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        I have my lights set to turn on slightly before I am supposed to wake, turn off after I go to work, before I return from home, and after I go to bed. I’ve recently added mmwave sensors to turn them on and off based on my presence within a room. I can do all kinds of automations that I could do manually sure but if I don’t need to and can minimize the amount of excess energy waste then why wouldn’t I want a wirelessly controlled switch and or lights?

        And yes most everyone can do this. Google Home Assistant and get lost in the rabbit hole.

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        The door from my driveway opens into my office. The light switch in my office is in a really shitty place. When coming into my office at night, I have to navigate to the light switch in the dark to turn on the light.

        Or, at least I did. Now when the door opens at night, the light in my office comes on at 10%.

        Stuff like that is why.

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        It’s one way of wirelessly communicating between devices of different types.

        You can have a WiFi-enabled light switch that you can control with your phone without it connecting to the internet.

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    Doc Martens are not a good buy for a while now. Standards of quality have dropped loads and my nephew has had two pairs fall apart from the DM store in the last 8 months. Red Wing, Thorogood, Solovair among others, but avoid Doc Martens when buying for life.

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      Yep, I’m on year 8 with my red wings; besides some gashes in the leather over the steel toe, still kicking and comfy.

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    10 months ago

    USB-Cable - Anker

    3 years ago I bought a double pack of usb-C to A cables on Amazon. Description mentioned a lifetime warranty so I took a screenshot for future. The only thing Anker wanted to know was the production number (which is on the packaging) and a proof of destruction of the old broken cable. Not a single usb cable survived longer than a year at our household despite Ankers.

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      10 months ago

      Someone is going around downvoting everyone who says something good about Anker without replying to any of the comments.

      Poor etiquette, imo

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      10 months ago

      Amazon Basics’ line of braided USB cables is comparable to Anker, btw. Lots of people estimate that they’re made on the same production line.

      I bought a three pack of their lightning cables five or six years ago. Every single one of them sees daily use (at my work desk, in my car, next to my bed) and every single one is still working just fine. Hell, they outlasted the phone I bought them for.

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      10 months ago

      They look good indeed. Can you also recommend their USB chargers? I am looking for a 3A USB charger with at least 2 ports.

      For the last one I had one of the pins broke and got stuck in the outlet, it was a very funny experience.

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        10 months ago

        I’ve had an Anker 2 port 3A charger for at least 5 years or so and don’t have any complaints about it. I’ve been an Anker fanboy for a while (albeit, I don’t buy a ton of electronics, but when I do need something Anker is my go-to), but I will say that doing some Googling recently it sounds like their quality might be going down. Just something to be aware of; I’ll probably keep buying from them unless I have a bad experience or keep hearing similar things. I’m just not aware of an alternative that’s as good as they have been.

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        10 months ago

        Anker is basically the only phone accessory brand I use. Now that iPhone moved to USB-C, Costco finally carries USB-C cables and they sell a really nice set of Anker cables, and Costco vouching for them tells me all I need to know.

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        10 months ago

        I got one of their 100W chargers and it’s awesome. Can charge my MacBook from work, but is smaller than the bundled Mac charger.

        Can power my personal surface + phone + wife’s phone.

        It’s great!

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      10 months ago

      I’m an Android developer and have owned a huge amount of cables and use them an absurd amount for times. Unfortunately I didn’t have a good experience with Anker cables. They seem to die on me as fast as other brands, usually what happens is phone connection ends up being hit or miss after a lot of use (eg. You have to wiggle it or the connection is lost if the cable is lightly disturbed).

      From my personal experience UGreen is currently holding the record for longest lasting cables. So far they have outlasted all of my other cables to the point where almost all of the cables I have left are UGreen because all of the other cables have failed.