Haven’t tried the game in a while but wasn’t it really difficult to unlock the chat after some update? On purpose because child safety, ironically.
That’s sus.
More recently, Harmel gave the victim a new phone without cellular data. However, the teenager was able to connect to Wi-Fi via the phone and used it to access the online game Among Us. The victim then seemingly used Among Us’ in-game chat function to contact another teenager in a lobby. The two exchanged social media details
Please, teach your kids how to email the cops.
Don’t all phones can call 911 even without a sim card?
Yeah, most phones can call 112 or 911 without a SIM card, but apparently some networks still block them which is more than a little fucked up.
Seems like the kind of networks regulators should shut down
They may not have been in range of any towers. I’m not and i don’t live in rural Oregon.
I was thinking the same thing, how does she have access to Among Us and able to exchange social media contacts but not able to someway contact the police directly?
Yeah, my old phone has no sim but still has 911 capabilities. It even scrolls the message “No SIM card - emergency calls only” across the top of the phone. I think it might be the law here, all phones whether cell enabled or not have 911 access.
I was watching a movie the other day and it got me wondering… How do the movie sets prevent cell phones from actually dialing 911 when the actor needs to call them in the script.
No idea if this was used for any film, but you may make your own GSM “tower”. Though it needs to be powerful enough that the phone won’t decide to roam to something else, and that might be a regulatory issue.
Also could use a fake phone app. Or a fake phone…
“Fire at studio, 9000 dead cause emergency services couldn’t be called.”
For 911 calls, and most calls actually, they almost never show the screen of the phone being dialled anyway. They just show the actor tapping at the phone vaguely while the camera shows them from the side or the back with an intense expression, and then suddenly they hold it up to their ear and then they act like they’re talking to 911.
And if for some reason they really do have to show the screen, they will just use a non-functional phone with a fake app or graphical effects in post-production, the same way they make ghosts and dragons appear and spaceships come crashing out of the sky, etc. A phone screen is a trivial effort to fake.
I can’t remember which show I was watching last night (tried a few of them and gave up on all cause everything is seemingly terrible nowadays).
But I commented because that thought specifically camemto mind since I watched them dial 911 exactly on the screen and press the green dial button and see the screen switch to “calling 911” or whatever it does which is what triggered my question.
Maybe airplane mode, if not a fake app. Doing it in effects would be the same effort of recreation with way more extra work for worse results. If it matches an actual dialers modern design, rule of least effort would say airplane mode or similar. Else, fake dialer.
Fake phone app that looks exactly the same. Or literally just a video. Or even just visual effects, with the phone being a green screen.
They could just not show them pushing the buttons. Just go “beep boop boop” “hello 911 what is your emergency”
Movie Magic
maybe that was too obvious to her captor and maybe a game flew under the psycho’s radar, giving just enough cover and time to ask for help
Yea, don’t think that’s it:
Authorities then set up a video call with the kidnapped teenager, during which the victim recounted Harmel’s abuse during the 18 months she was held in captivity.
There’s something about this that doesn’t add up.
Honestly I think you just need to stop assuming a kid in this situation is going to react logically. I guarantee she just wanted to contact someone she knew and she had an old friend from school on among us and used that. Also, for the people suggesting email, it’s actually a lot harder to make an email these days than you’d think. Especially on the services that most people know about.
Subject: Kidnapping!
Dear Sir/Madam, I am writing to inform you of a kidnapping that has me held on the premises of 123 Cavendon Road.
Please let me know if you have any additional questions that I may assist in clarifying for you. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Best regards,
URGENT: Kidnapping!! ‼️
xXroblocks_masterXx@gmail.com has requested a read receipt.
I’m teaching my kid that cops are dangerous and they should avoid them unless there is no other choice.
Welp. I feel like being locked in a basement is one of those “no other choice” situations.
Kidnappers adore you.
That’s why he already said he’s teaching his kids about avoiding the cops. ICE and other LEO’s abduct people all the time, quite often extrajudiciously.
Non cop kidnappers arguably might do it less but are inarguably less successful at it than LEO’s.
But ICE comes for you because you are on a list, not because you trustingly followed someone to their car or something. They hunt you; they don’t lure you. It doesn’t matter if you trust or distrust them; the result will be the same.
- You don’t have to be on a list for ICE to predate. Most of the children weren’t on lists. Most of the dead parents weren’t, either.
- I don’t understand what your trust remarks have to do with predators, but the important thing is don’t trust LEO’s
I’m old and I didn’t know you could email cops. lmfao
I mean, he had internet. He probably could have googled how to email them.
Did you even read the bloody article? It clearly says she.
Fuck the police, need other organization to contact. The police won’t help, more likely to help kidnappers or shoot the victim.
I am waiting for your clear suggestions who you would contact instead.
Your friend on Among Us obviously wtf are u even asking for
imagine being a player in a game lobby and some random other player says this to you. even just imagining it is sobering.
good on the other player for stepping up.
My first instinct would be that someone tries to scam me. This is a reminder to myself and everyone else, that we should take help request seriously.
help, I’m stuck at the airport, I just need 400Euros to go home and I’ll be able to give your money back, here’s my bitcoin wallet
stuck at the airport
Step sister, is that you?
The victim is from Utah, rescued in Oregon. It sounds like something from a third-world country, but it happens everywhere.
Nah, it being in the us is not surprising.
I mean, pretty sure the US shouldn’t be considered first world anymore. So you’re still right.
USA is first world by definition, regardless of what happened it can only ever be first world because the USA, is by definition first world.
Stable economy, and high standard of living are missing dude.
That’s not the definition of first world… Switzerland is a third world country by definition
Anywhere but the selfish United States it is. Do they not teach you how words and language can evolve…?
The only place still using the antiquated definition is the US. I think it’s so they can feel better or something, but yeah. Stop perpetuating outdated and racist definitions.
We aren’t advocating Cold War era definitions! We’re saying first/third world is stupid and nobody should really use it!! There’s a reason why most economists and such use developed/developing (or less binary classifications)
This exactly!!! hahahha. Saying third world to refer to poor places is the antiquated and racist omg haha.
“First world” was a Cold War era term, where “first world” is America-aligned nations (so by definition, that would include the U.S.), “second world” was Soviet-sligned (no longer really in use since the Soviets no longer exist), and third world was everybody who didn’t pick a side (so China after Sino-Soviet split, India, Brazil, etc.)
Most organisations use the more neutral terms “developed” and “developing”, and the U.S. is definitely a developed nation (there are less binary terms that economists and such use to categorise even further that you could look into, just check the organisation who runs it since many can be biased towards certain things compared to others)
Personally I think those terms are still kinda weird. Like “developed” isn’t a binary. You never stop developing as a nation. Sometimes you backslide too.
Sure, continue to perpetuate the selfish and ignorant defintion dude! You’re only making things worse by trying to reuse the antiquated USA centric definition. Only Americans use that one still.
I am not trying to encourage the use of the term (it was a Cold War term), the idea of developing nations being part of the “third world” implies that they are far lesser than the first world nations, so it’s a stupid term that nobody should use in my opinion.
What’s wrong with the modern defintion?
You’re refusing to even believe there’s another one, if you perpetuate the antiquated one, and incorrectly try and correct someone who is trying to use it right, you’re only making things worse.
Whose fucking definition?
It’s really hilarious how they create arbitrary “definitions” for themselves and pick and choose when and how to use them.
Have to put down people of developing countries? yea, you’re from third world country. It’s suddenly about standard of life, civic sense, and freedom.
Falls to fascism like it’s just another weekend and lets police run like brown shirts, does very little when they build concentration camps and climate choking machines, now the condition for “first world” switches to “we’re still ‘first world’ because we defined it”
Fuck right off with your made up definitions. You can self assign yourself whatever the fuck you want, doesn’t mean rest of the world has to adhere by your “definition”.
Here’s Wikipedia. It’s not my definition. I’m also not saying people haven’t used it in a derogatory way now as a term to refer to underdeveloped nations.
The term Third World arose during the Cold War to define countries that remained non-aligned with either NATO or the Warsaw Pact. The United States, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Turkey, the Southern Cone, Western European countries and other allies represented the “First World”, while the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, Romania and the rest of the Warsaw Pact and their allies represented the “Second World”. This terminology provided a way of broadly categorizing the nations of the Earth into three groups based on political divisions. Due to the complex history of evolving meanings and contexts, there is no clear or agreed-upon definition of the Third World.[1] Strictly speaking, “Third World” was a political, rather than economic, grouping.[2] Political alignments in Europe during the Cold War after 1961
Since most Third World countries were economically poor and non-industrialized, it became a stereotype or a derogatory euphemism to refer to developing countries as “third-world.” In political discourse, the term Third World was often associated with being underdeveloped. China was labeled “Third World” for several decades in the 20th century before its robust development in the 21st century. Some countries in the Eastern Bloc, such as Cuba, were often regarded as Third World. The Third World was normally seen to include many countries with colonial pasts in Africa, Latin America, Oceania, and Asia. It was also sometimes taken as synonymous with countries in the Non-Aligned Movement. In the dependency theory of thinkers like Raúl Prebisch, Walter Rodney, Theotônio dos Santos, and others, the Third World has also been connected to the world-systemic economic division as “periphery” countries dominated by the countries comprising the economic “core”.[1]
In the Cold War, some European democracies (Austria, Finland, Ireland, Sweden, and Switzerland) were neutral in the sense of not joining NATO, but were prosperous, never joined the Non-Aligned Movement, and seldom self-identified as part of the Third World.
Since the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, other terms have also been used instead of Third World such as developing countries, least developed countries or the Global South.
You just conveniently leave out the portion that talks about the modern defintion and interject your own. The fuck?
It’s been a while since someone has intentionally editorialize a quote, probably why you left out all the hyperlinks and everything too.
By its literal definition. First world describes the US and its allies, the second world described the Soviet bloc, and the third world is everyone else/the non-aligned nations.
That’s the US definition… the rest of the world refuses to acknowledge that defintion and uses a modern one. It’s antiquated and a selfish, only the US continues its use in that defintion.
Give it a rest
Cuz Murica numba one!
The us made up first and third world. It’s the definition of first world country.
Stable economy, and high standard of living is missing, so they made it up, but they sure don’t met the bar anymore.
“First world” just meant the states that were America-aligned (so by definition, the U.S. goes here).
The “world” term is stupid and nobody should use it anymore (it implies that “third world” countries are lesser than America’s allies)
Developing / developed economies is what more people use nowadays, and the U.S. would be classified as developed, though a binary is still not too helpful given there are lots of in-betweeens (the big elephant in the room, China, argues it should remain classified as a developing nation because, as it turns out, there is wealth inequality there too + billionaires taking too much of the pie, so a large chunk of people still live under conditions closer to developing countries, while others say that China should be a developed nation given they have the second strongest economy)
That’s the American centric definition, yes. Why are you continuing to choose an antiquated and selfish definition?
The only ones I see using it are Americans, so they can continue to believe they aren’t third world.
Only Americans use that word. The rest of the world knows how selfish and wrong it is.
Proof
I literally said the term is stupid and nobody should use it. I’m not advocating for it because it isn’t a good definition. Also, having developing nations classified as a part of the “lesser world” is not good at all!
Again, I would avoid using “first world” and “third world”
FYI, “third world” is culturally insensitive, if not racist. Hell, even “developing countries” is ethnocentric at its core. Of course, “historically exploited, oppressed, exsanguinated nations” doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue. 😅
And, yeah, after volunteering w/ anti-trafficking orgs in the PacNW, I learned that NE OR is a notorious crossover for that and worse.
Vast tracts of wild foothills, deep gorges, alpine mountains, dense forests, geolithic scatter, et al, are a added obstacular layers to justice groups.
For example, The Hunted was not unrealistic in its depiction. Meek’s Cutoff, Leave No Trace, Pig, and even the classic Stand By Me are right up there, too. (FWIW, Wild is a honorable mention for showcasing the diverse, and largely untouched backcountry along the PCT) 🤘🏼
Nor does third world country even mean “developing countries” or “historically exploited, oppressed, exsanguinated nations” it means not US or Soviet aligned but it seems everyone has forgot that.
The US can’t stop being a first world country because the entire definition of first world country is US aligned. (unless the russians completely take over the US at which point they would be second world i guess?)
Edit: Unless you mean the maoist sense, then third world does mean “historically exploited, oppressed, exsanguinated nations”, but in that definition the US would still not be part of the third world.
I mean, that’s only if you choose to continue to use the US only defintion. Part of language is it evolving, the words usage has changed.
It now, no longer meets the bars of “stable economy” and “high standard of living”.
But sure, continue to use an antiquated definiton.
Mate, we are not advocating for the use of the U.S. centric definition (and not the Maoist one either). “First world” and “third world” are not good terms to classify the economies and stability of nations, given its historic bias towards America’s allies (which is stupid!) and how developing nations are put as a “third world”, like they are lesser (very very stupid!! We are not supporting this!!!)
When we mention this definition, we are not approving or accepting the use of the term to mean it, we are trying to say this term shouldn’t be used at all!
Developed/developing is a bit better, but as others have said that is not perfect either. Turns out, the economies and stability of nations does not fit nicely in a binary!
Anytime I see “language is always evolving” it’s always to excuse someone using language wrong
Evolution is “god be with you” turning into goodbye, not redefining a word to fit your definition instead 😭
Most of those words you used have had their definitions changed or didn’t exist in the past…. So you’re using words that you shouldn’t use if that’s what you think.
Words also have multiple meanings, and you can already choose which one depending on the situation.
People like you just refuse to acknowledge change.
“You refuse to change words arbitrarily, yet you are using words that changed in the past, curious. Here is a screenshot of Wikipedia. I am very intelligent” is all I’m getting here from this.
Words changed in the past before we had things like dictionaries and shit, different times
(And the Soviet Union was dissolved like a decade before I was born so I don’t think it’s a “refuse to change” thing 😭)
“You refuse to change words arbitrarily, yet you are using words that changed in the past, curious. Here is a screenshot of Wikipedia. I am very intelligent” is all I’m getting here from this.
What’s arbitrary about using a non-racist, non-selfish modern defintion of a word?
Words changed in the past before we had things like dictionaries and shit, different times
What? Words continue to change, and to be added to the dictionary.
You think they printed edition one of the dictionary and that’s all we’ve ever had?
You’re perpetuating an antiquated word, only the US uses it, and people like you allow it to be perpetuated by dogging your heels in that “language can’t evolve”. It still is, and always will.
Is there any source I could provide that WOULD change your mind? I can go into multiple dictionary websites and choose a random word and show your it’s history over time. Almost every word has a history, unlike what you’re claiming and saying here.
Look, crunk wasn’t even a word when dictionary’s were invented, and yet it’s in one… how could that be if words can’t evolve and change…?
I never said or even implied that the US (and all/any others who use[d] it) would qualify for the term, FWIW.
My second paragraph wasn’t meant to imply you said it was meant to talk about the term and how its used like how plantfanatic did.
Oops, sorry. Thanks for that. 🖖🏼
Most of the time “Global South” adequately covers it.
Just another step on the euphemism treadmill honestly. And less accurate. Idk what’s wrong with saying a country is developing or undeveloped, its much less ambiguous than global south or third world, when 99% of the time what youre trying to say is that the country lacks infrastructure, economic development, and law and order.
Imo “Global South” is actually the most problematic of the three because it implies that a country is undeveloped because of its geographic position. I.e. the implication is “if you’re south of the equator, your country sucks.” Any nation can move from undeveloped to developing or developing to developed, but you can’t move your physical location on the map.
What makes a country ‘developed’? Is the US becoming undeveloped because they’ve fallen so far below the standard of other countries with a high quality of life? If countries move from ‘undeveloped’ to ‘developing’ to ‘developed’ what happens when they start to move backwards? You can’t say they’re ‘developing’ because that implies forward progress, so then does the middle stage become ‘de-developing’? And at what point is progress supposed to just stop because the country is ‘developed’ now? That implies a finality to the process. The whole thing is stupid.
Yeah “developing country” is probably best. Being American, “Global South” always reminds me of the southern US, which if it were independent would also be considered a developing country.
As someone from developing country, i’d rather be called that than Global South, because it imply that the southern countries are all underdeveloped while northern country are developed. Which kinda mean Austrailia, New Zealand, and Singapore are all underdeveloped country. Inaccurate as heck, but not as bad as saying first and third world.
For those in/from the US, perhaps. 😅
This is essentially how the Turpin family was discovered in 2018. One of the girls made friends online (on YouTube singing at first, I think) and it led to her eventually escaping and getting to a cop.
That was in Perris, California; north of San Diego.
The article says they just went through a window and called 911
So the kidnapping happened in Utah, they were found in Oregon, but the kidnapper is being tried in Idaho? Where does Idaho fit into the crime?
Ontario, OR, where the kidnapper was arrested, is right on the idaho border. I dunno exactly why it’s being tried in boise but maybe he’s still listed as resident there or some such?
Northeast OR is basically idaho, culturally and politically, it’s likely he had some kinda connections that stretched across the border.
Much like ivy, etc. in public wildernesses, NE Oregon’s bigoted “culture” is an invasive, parasitic blight that has (so far) defied effective, impactful cleanup efforts. 🫤
edit: clarity
I try to avoid denigrating cultures that are not my own.
Good! 🤩
Thankfully, it was “my own” back when, and I was avidly part of said removal efforts. Anecdotal, sure, but first-hand. ✊🏼
Also, I fixed it, thanks!
Dude what the fuck. This motherfucker needs to be strung up and hacked apart alive.
Jesus fucking Christ humans what the fuck
Do you wanna livestream it too?
Can you make a martyr out of a pedophile? If not, then sure. Pay per view and give the money to the victim. People who rape are the worst people. Worse then murderers. I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone who does the worst thing you can do to someone.
Do you support letting government torture criminals and livestream it?
It’s not about ignoring the heinous nature of their crimes. You can’t normalize government hacking pieces off criminals as ‘punishment’.
Yeah, I know. 😔I just hate pedophiles a whole extra a lot. You can’t trust government to even deliver the mail on time anymore let alone decide who gets capital punishment. I know. I get the disconnect between wanting some criminals to be tortured and live streamed and forgetting who would be charged with carrying it out. Sorry about that.
