• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    These Sociopathic Oligarchs have become a major global problem, and it is only going to get worse. These people have serious mental illness, likely OCD manifesting as a financial hoarding disorder. They can’t stop accumulating money, no matter how much they have, or the damage it does to society. They would literally kill millions of people if they thought it would increase their bank accounts.

    Look at the damage they’ve done as Billionaires, and imagine the problems they could cause as TRILLIONAIRES. They’ll be able to afford armies, especially if they form alliances. Then they can create their own sovereign nation, and start really throwing their influence around.

    How could they create their own country, that’s silly? Oh, I don’t know, maybe buy a giant island off the coast of Albania, which has miles of bunkers reinforced to withstand a NATO attack? Maybe Ivanka knows a place like that.

    These people are a ticking hydrogen bomb, and we have to do every person on this planet the favor of eliminating this existential threat to mankind.

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      That island is a half hour drive down the coast from my parents house. The whole coastal area has been bought up by the super rich and developers. It’s really heartbreaking.

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    If the democrat victory carries over into action, watch Delon Husk (and google, amazon, openAI etc) become a progressive faster than the blink of an eye.

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      I wonder what they’re gonna do now, between a rock and a hard place.

      They need to remain Trump sycophants while also accounting for Democratic Congress.

      If the latter really push forward, billionaires will get into some very precarious position.

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        I am sure they are having their people draft plans for re-implementing dei (that they removed soon after Trump’s second term started) in case this takes hold.

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    Since they are getting rich just because of people buying their stuff, the power is in buying. Stop buying. Watch La belle verte movie. There show how people stopped all this madness.

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      This doesn’t work in today’s world. Even if all of the fediverse and reddit would be on board with this idea, the impact might be less than 1% in missed sales, simply because the other 99% would not know about it because they don’t use social media, or it’s not in their algorithm, or it’s not on tv news. Plus you need to keep it going for a long time, not just a week until a different topic overtakes.

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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      Many of these people don’t have fortunes from consumer goods. An awful lot of them are making money out of thin air. They create markets that rise, bubbles that grow, manipulate markets, etc., and the value of their investments go way up. No products were created, distributed, purchased. That’s too much trouble. Better to just manipulate numbers on a spread sheet, and voilá, wealth out of thin air.

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      That just works when the people buy directly, not thru government contracts or subsidies.

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      It’s of just Musk, it’s billionaires as a whole. One may have very hard time not buying anything from them while still surviving.

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    “Plan to”?

    Uh yeah that’s not how this stuff works. You don’t announce your plans like that, you just do them.

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    I’m really curious how we don’t know where he lives yet. I’d expect someone that rich, loud, and conspicuous would be hard to hide. I’ve just kind of always assumed that the home address of anyone that big in the public eye would be easy to figure out.

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      Some of his himes have been leaked and even made the news. But he and other billionaires have many properties all owned by LLCs, and knowing where they lay their heads any given night is difficult.

      With people as high-profile as Musk, it’s even more difficult because his entourage of staff, security, etc is big enough that they need their own support. You’d think that makes it easier - just follow the line of black vehicles. But lots of the secondary support apparatus may actually be kept at a different site nearby, so the house with all the visible security may be where the support staff and mobile security/logistics team is, while Musk himself may onky have 2-3 vehicles going to his site.

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        In other words, we are already forcing extremely wealthy people to go to a LOT of trouble to protect the privacy that they believe the rest of us shouldn’t have. That’s a lot of trouble, and a lot of expense, and a lot of inconvenience.

        Crank it WAY up, make their lives MISERABLE.

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      I’m really curious how we don’t know where he lives yet.

      A of these guys own a ton of properties and only declare one of them a primary residence due tax purposes.

      If Elon lives anywhere, it’s on a private jet. I doubt he spends more than ten days a year at any single building.

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      I get the sentiment, and it has some merit, but when we think of the children, we need to think of all of them. Will inaction here hurt more children, and people overall, in other places?

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      “think of the children!!!”

      Really… Everyone, including those children, are suffering because of these people. A gentle “doxxing” (what is public available information for every other individual) as a warning is nothing compared to the harms they inflict daily.

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        1. not everyone else’s info is publicly available. I can’t just look up where you live.
        2. the doxxing itself isn’t what OP warns about, but acting with the information in a dangerous manner
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          1. Yes it is, and yes you can! The best sources are hidden behind clunky and/or paywalled government sites. Collators like https://www.peoplefinders.com/ then exist to provide a bit better access to that information. For a price. In the US If you pay taxes or own property that’s all public information for us normal people.

          2. Inaction has been shown to be more dangerous. For those kids too.

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    Generally, I am anti-doxxing… but the billionaire class at the very least deserves loud protests outside their little enclaves.

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      Considering they are actively doxxing everyone en masse: it’s direct karma.

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      Generally, I am anti death-penalty… But the billionaire class, at the very least, deserve guillotines, gallows, and their heads on spikes outsider their little enclaves

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      They have blood on their hands. Indirectly maybe, but there is a LOT of blood. They deserve much worse than protests

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      Most of them are wealthy because they effectively mass scale doxx everyone to advertisers anyway.

      They hate shit like VPNs and places not using any linked ID info and online handles and shit. Anything providing any later of anonymity.

      Fuck these people.

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        Perfectly said, I didn’t even take the time to say the same. I would say the advertising money is just a happy side effect.

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        Totally correct.

        And the only reason we’re getting movement on spyware TV’s is because these bastards are affected by it.

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      it doesn’t count when you do the same thing back to someone that they’re doing to you

      if they have all our data, we can have all their data

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          Is your point supposed to be a critique of removing billionaire privacy on anti-“an eye for an eye” grounds? It’s not revenge or retaliation. It’s parity. If they can put us in a surveillance state, they should be spied on too. Why would we take the moral high road over the people trying to kill the planet for profit? Fuck 'em.

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      At least in this case “doxxing” could restore an asymmetry: Billionaires own the major internet platforms, they already know a good portion about a big number of people. It’s just not called doxxing.

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    A lot of stuff what billionaires are doing shouldn’t be swept under personal privacy.

    “Don’t bug me, it’s my own business how I spend my money”, some would say. For random people, that’s true. But when you command absurd amounts of wealth, maybe all of that stuff has consequences to the rest of the society.

    We demand transparency from people who have power over our lives, and oligarchs shouldn’t be an exception to that rule.

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      Every trade that exceedes 1 Million should have one neutral agent™ that approves the trade.

      For every new Million a new agent should be around to Approved the trade.

      No Person can have the same neutral agent twice in their Trading.

      Trade volume is saved for a years and if traders exceed their Million in a years the last trade needs to be supervised

      Etc.

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      A good quote I remember hearing from somewhere is “when you vote with your wallet, the people with more money get more votes.”

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        Billionaires own the people who control the means of mass destruction: Trump who suffers from dementia and Hegseth who’s an alcoholic and a moron. They both suffer from brain-damaged levels of stupidity and can be easily goaded into a nuclear attack whenever it suits billionaires to have one.

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          1. Billionaires and Capitalism.
          2. Abrahamic religions. (no problem with Voodoo or Shinto or Sikhism or Bahai or …) Prosperity gospel is not ok. Saying that hell is mostly filled with women and that women are less capable of civic life than men is not ok.
          3. War.
          4. Boom (for some) and Bust (some never experience the downside, some never experience the upside) cycles and economic fuckery like prices bieng too high or just volitile, many rented instead of owned across the board domisiles, ads, paid subscriptions, spam, scams, gamblified everything, climate and energy mismanagement, science and all other legitimate human needs bow to the “need” for profit and lately the “need” for aristocratic rule (Trump and Musk and Yarvin aren’t the only ones who want to be kings over me), etc.
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            Bahá’i is also an Abrahamic religion, by the way. It basically splintered from Shia Islam.

            Prosperity gospel is not an original feature of Christianity nor of Islam. Rich people who’ve been dodging taxes would certainly populate hell as imagined in these traditions.

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              Bahai is an eclectic remix, redo, reframe of the old “hits”. I don’t consider it Abrahamic only pecause Bahaullah was inspired by Abrahamic religion. The flavor is completely different, and the behavior too. I don’t see Baha’i as a threat the same way Christianity, Islam, and some conservative strains of Judaism are.

              What matters to me are not words, but function. What do their clerics preach? What do their doctrinal documents say? I judge every religion harshly. Many doctrinal statements do not pass the sniff test.

              That said, the people for whom the religions serve as cultural background, are not simply robots who implement all aspects of relidious doctrine at all times. I judge people on how they live their lives, and on what they want to do in the world as I intimately know and experience it.

              So Zohran is great, but not Islam. Talarico is great, but not Christianity. I may agree with many things Pope Leo says, but my world is better without the Catholicism. Etc.