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- cross-posted to:
- texas@lemmy.world
- usnews@beehaw.org
Multiple people have been shot at the Dallas ICE field office, according to a law enforcement source.
Shooter appears to have been targeting kidnapped immigrants, not ICE. But sure, the violence against ICE agents has to stop. Violence against brown people, however? Totally fine.
I’m not sure what the shooter’s motivations were, but he appears to have shot the van they were in multiple times and not have had any visual on his targets, meaning he could have been aiming for the ICE. It’s hard to say for sure.
he appears to have shot the van they were in
If that’s the case, the ICE agents would be in the front of the van and the detainees would have been in the back. So how do the detainees get shot but the ICE agents are fine if the shooter was targeting agents?
Again, we don’t know for sure, but it’s not uncommion for the Agents themselves to ride in the back and all jump out on location to perform a surprise raid.
Sounds like he was shooting up the general area, and the van included. Maybe not even thinking about it and could have been shooting the back of a van, for all I know.
Given the background of the shooter, I don’t think he was thinking too much about the nuanced strategy and results, he was a 4-chan troll turned shooter, with maybe a bit of a libetarian bent, but mostly a generally nihilistic guy losing his mind in the cesspits of discussions.
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did ice just murder a bunch of immigrants to give the government an excuse to further crack down?
Yep.
Alternatively, it could have been just another right-wing fuckhead who wanted to murder some brown people and the administration is making the best use of it they can to make up for dropping the ball so hard on Kirk’s assassination.
Could be a mix of the two. Could be an ICE officer who was off duty. We don’t even know who they are hiring or who they are redirecting from what agency. Or it could just be someone who wanted to be ICE or were rejected by them.
It’s looking more and more like he was some 4-chan mental case who just wanted to kill people. His friends reported that he would never take political action against Trump, so that says a lot. His 6000 hours in Rust also says a lot.
It seems like a pretty good bet now adays that it will be a 4-chan mental case before you have any information.
Somethingawful.com shaped our future in ways nobody would have imagined. More and more I feel like I understand Lowtax taking his own life, even if most of it was personal issues, there was a weight behind his choices that spread throughout the world when he just wanted a funny comedy site.
It does seem likely. Especially if that “anti-ice” message on the bullets is real. That doesn’t even make sense…
Only if they somehow convinced a white kid to shoot himself as well to make it convincing.
Many of the fuckwits that commit mass shootings kill themselves afterwards to avoid consequences. The guy killing himself afterwards is honestly perfectly normal.
Sniper shoots unlawfully detained people. Homeland Security sells the story as an attack on ICE.
So supposedly this was targeted at ICE but he missed and hit 3 immigrants by accident. So, again, both sides will claim the other side is responsible.
The only thing clear is that there’s more violence coming.
It really, really feels like a false flag, either completely or partially staged. The single round in a… stripper clip? with the phrase “anti ice” hastily written on ONE bullet is bad enough, but the tweet by Patel really sealed it, both in terms of posting evidence in a murder case on social media, and the fact that he said “empty casings were engraved” as he posted the picture of non-empty bullet casings with sharpie markings. It seems like they tried to do something hasty and rapid here and made a lot of mistakes.
Worth noting there is precedent for this; this is exactly how right-wing extremists operate; notable examples in the past proven to be such false flags include:
I’m really surprised ol’ wide-eyes didn’t have his boys write “Antifa 4Ever!” on the shell. The weird rush-job of the whole thing really lends me to believe whatever went down wasn’t exactly how they had planned.
I guess we wait and see what obvious bs they do next like throw a wig on the shooter’s body and call him “trans.”
Yeah, these guys writing shit on bullets thinking it’ll throw cops off their trail, are wasting their time. It’s dumb.
I am willing to buy into the idea that T Rob was a conservative who started turning left. This shit right here is nonsense.
So supposedly this was targeted at ICE but he missed and hit 3 immigrants by accident.
Source?
You see the picture? It says “anti-ICE” on the bullet. I find it really fucking weird that ever since Luigi all the killers write something on the bullets and it’s supposed to tell us what side they were on. So I’m not saying he wrote this and that he was “anti-ICE”, I’m just saying that both sides will no claim he was from the other side. One because of what he supposedly wrote on the bullet, the other because of who he hit.
If the shooter was actually Anti-ICE and chose to write something on the casings, they would write something other than “Anti-ICE”. That’s not even a message.
And only on one bullet… perfectly left facing up on the ground, totally not staged for the photo at all. There’s no way that an ICE agent could have possibly written that quickly with a pen/marker/sharpie… at an office… where the shooting happened. Nope, couldn’t possibly have been one of the Gestapo there after the fact, they’re trustworthy and never do anything illegal.
The world pretty much fell over themselves thinking how awesome the ‘deny’, ‘defend’, ‘depose’ was, so I’m not particularly surprised everyone that follows through with sniping tries to imitate that in some way. It’s a way for the shooter to tap into being as important and significant as Luigi has been in popular culture. Or in this case, it might have been ‘ironic’ as a supremely broken 4-chan edge-lord thinking they are going out of the world doing the ultimate troll.
Luigi hasn’t been found guilty of anything.
Looks like it’s from an M1 though, the original antifascist gun
Why would someone shoot detainees while hating ice?
Indescrimanant shooting. That’s how.
except this was discriminant; they only shot the kidnapped.
He shot at a van that was parked. Probably trying to hit the driver’s, and sucked at it.
Looking at history and how unoriginal HF is. My prediction remains:
Big ass false flag attack is on the horizon.
Putin flavored.
Everything the regime has tried to use to incite “civil war” has failed so far.
Interesting idea, but what could it possibly be? Americans shrug off gun violence like it’s just a part of life.
Like I said. Putin Flavored.
The Moscow apartment bombings. Probably in a blue or at least purple state. Lots of victims. Blames antifa.
It’ll be the new Hitler’s “Reichstagg Fire” moment. His big one-size-fits-all excuse to snap his mass-murder plan into place.
Someone literally writes “Anti-ICE” on a bullet casing with what looks like a Sharpie? Is this The Onion? And shoots detainees because they hate ICE? Does that make any sense to anyone?
Here’s a better theory: ICE killed a couple of detainees and they couldn’t even stage a “fake attack by leftists” story. Motivation makes no sense and multiple people are dead including, conveniently, the sniper.
In your pants-on-head-with-shit-in-pants theory, where did they get the sniper corpse from?
Yeah, they took it one step too far there with the fake sniper, but this story has very obviously been falsified.
What seems to have happened here is some far right nutjob killed a bunch of detainees because it’s not enough that immigrants get deported, no, they have to fucking die (and if you don’t think that’s plausible you’ve not been paying attention). Then the people at ICE decided that the last thing they wanted was for this to increase sympathy for immigrants so they hastily scrawled “ANTI-ICE” (about the least plausible “Fuck you” anyone has ever put on a munition… That’d be like some Tommy in WW2 writing “ANTI-GERMAN” on his grenade… No, you write something funny like “Catch!”) on single cartridge out of a stack of five, using a sharpie from the front desk, because they saw it in the news recently with the Charlie Kirk stuff and figured it would seem plausible.
They also invented that ICE shot three detainees, two of whom are SURVIVING WITNESSES. Don’t encourage this bullshit. Just wait for the facts.
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But who was snipster?!
Unfortunately, the Nazi government is going to use this to further abuse their power.
This picture took me way too long to get the joke on but lmao I’m stealing it
I don’t know what the things to the left are, plus pears?
Tots and pears, sounds like thoughts and prayers.
the amurican/american version of bone apple tea (bon appetit)
Tots and pears.
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“left-wing extremist” who was “politically motivated to go after people who are enforcing our border.”
If they keep saying it they’ll be right eventually. “SEE?!? We told you so!!”
Yes, that’s why the shooter targeted detainees, not officers.
In Dallas, a city not close to a border.
So basically you can write anything on the bullet to place blame on the side you want blamed and everyone will automatically believe you? – because someone who would shoot people would definitely not lie or try to make it look like a certain “side” did it, right?
Or maybe no matter what they write or who they shoot, this regime will blame it on “the left”. (edit to add): The FBI could just as easily have scrawled that “anit-ice” on there before taking the picture. I guess messages on bullets is the new trend now.
So basically you can write anything on the bullet to place blame on the side you want blamed and everyone will automatically believe you?
Everyone on the side not being blamed, yes
Or maybe no matter what they write or who they shoot, this regime will blame it on “the left”
Also yes
They’re so fucking desperate for martial law
Edit: So I guess ICE is just straight up executing people now?
Fuck this country.
The victims were shot, not the thugs.
jFC, are you serious? What even is happening.
You know what’s happening because it happened before, in 1939.
It sounds like yet another case of a 4chan edgelord.
What a shithole country.
You love that comment don’t you?
I hope it can bring you happiness.
The first step to heal a shithole country, is to realize it’s a shithole country.
Happiness comes when it stops being a shithole. Let the healing begin.
Another false flag?
Anyone doing stuff like this is doing exactly what’s needed to stoke more division so the wealthy can toy with us even more. The wealthy and/or corrupt feds don’t care if you commit these acts or die by these acts as long as they can use the even for their own agendas.
For the millionth time, they don’t need pretext. They’re going to fuck everyone with or without a “reason”.
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Right!? It’s wild. What sucks is I have no faith in regular citizens. Everyone is sooo far gone… They are still buying into everything… Afraid to cut the cord of false security and fake freedom because they know it means submitting to reality authentic real freedom.
The psychological warfare is insane… People are getting manipulated to fight for the owners of humanity. It’s beyond America tbh.
Do it again, but this time hit the actual bad guys.