Israel formally states it did not kill Charlie Kirk - eviltoast

In a video statement, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu called the growing MAGA conspiracy a ‘monstrous big lie.’

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    6 hours ago

    He left behind a wife and two kids. That’s how we know Israel didn’t do it.

    Stolen from here

    BTW, Netanyahu having to deal with actual antisemites peddling conspiracy theories sounds a lot like the boy who cried wolf

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      4 hours ago

      Being against isreal is not bigotry so save your actual bias for someone that can be trusted to be honest abput it.

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      7 hours ago

      I hope that people aren’t really taking this too seriously as a reason to suspect Israel. There was a LOT of chatter saying that they killed him, by the Nazis of course. A dominant narrative on /pol/ is basically that Kirk got in bed with the Jews and now he’s paid the price for trusting them.

      From the standpoint of your average left-leaning person, Israel making a statement like this seems completely out of the blue and makes them look really guilty. But there’s a whole demographic of people who really think that they did it. I don’t think it’s too unreasonable that they would make a statement about it. And let me be clear. I absolutely hate Israel with all my heart. But there are plenty of events in this world that they are not responsible for.

      More importantly, this seems dangerously close to reasoning like: “You wouldn’t defend yourself against these accusations unless they were actually true!” Which is definitely not a good bar to set.

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        7 hours ago

        A dominant narrative on /pol/ is basically that Kirk got in bed with the Jews and now he’s paid the price for trusting them.

        Do things ever go any other way over there? 🙄

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            6 hours ago

            Like immigrants! Or black people! Or trans people!

            I miss the days when 4chan acted as the fucking quarantine for most of the nazi bullshit on the internet.

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        5 hours ago

        There’s a separate conspiracy mostly on Instagram that asserts he was wearing a titanium breastplate and the shooting was meant to be staged like Trump’s, but the bullet accidentally ricocheted off the breastplate.

        I doubt it tbh but who knows. We have extremely unreliable evidence, eg the text messages that seem manufacturered.

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        8 hours ago

        I was aware of the theory. It’s sketchy though that they feel the need to say they did something that should be obvious they didn’t. Unless they know they are guilty and feel the need to defend them selves.

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          I suppose. But if hundreds of people started accusing you of being a secret space alien, you might one day feel the urge to say “listen everyone, I am not an alien, I am a human”. It’s pretty messed up if people hear you say that and go “hmmm exactly what an alien would say tbh”

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    9 hours ago

    Holy shit, they killed Charlie Kirk??!

    I never even considered Israel could be responsible. Very nice of Netanyahu to clear that up.

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    5 hours ago

    I only have a vague idea of what Kirk stood for so can someone please explain why anyone would think that Israel killed him? Wasn’t he a Trump supporter - and by extension a supporter of Israeli policy?

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      It’s because supposedly he changed his views on Israel, and Netanyahu confirmed he invited Charlie to Israel to discuss this like a week or two before Charlie died and said he was changing his mind again.

      Candace Owens (yarf) has acted emotional about this, there’s rumors she was having an affair, or her husband and Charlie were having an affair and she didn’t know but was close to him from that. There are also other rumors about Charlie hooking up with men. Anyway, Candace Owens is primarily the one pushing the anti-Israel stuff and that Netanyahu killed him.

      Remembering that she is owned by Russia, it could be that she is just stirring up drama while Russia starts fucking with Poland and Romania and NATO

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    11 hours ago

    well coming from such a genuine stand up kind of guy who never does evil things. no sir. yeah I can totally trust this is true.

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    12 hours ago

    I didn’t think they had anything to do with it until this.

    Netanyahu made a couple of social media posts about it when it happened, but there’s now not really another sensible reason why the PM of a random country cares about an American podcaster so much.

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        9 hours ago

        The more the Netanyahu reacts to this the more he shows where his head is at.

        The PM of a different country is placing a lot of importance on what was before, just seen as an American podcaster by the mainstream.

        This coupled with his “if I go down the global right goes down with me” post he made last week just makes it even more sus IMO

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    15 hours ago

    Makes sense, they’re reaching the point where it’s more efficient to list the people they haven’t killed.

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    13 hours ago

    damn, i didn’t think they did until they said they didn’t. one thing i know is that they can’t tell the truth

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      14 hours ago

      Confirmed: When I read this headline I thought “uhhh kinda weird; who asked?”

      Qanon. Of course Qanon asked.

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        13 hours ago

        Even a broken clock is right twice a day. The murder of Charlie Kirk continues to benefit some of the most powerful individuals and banks with ties to Epstein.

        The Senate called for this investigation hours before he was killed

        So if anybody was paying attention to that right now instead of the threats of civil war, that would mean that people would be looking at the relationship between Epstein and individuals like Netenyahu, Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and Peter Thiel, as well as the banks that helped fund them like JP Morgan, BNY, Bank of America and Deutsche Bank.

        Or at least, people would be noticing the Republicans have voted 3 separate times to block this investigation starting on the day Kirk was killed.