What happened in 1971? - eviltoast

Saw a post about this at !history@hexbear.net and was a bit confused by exactly how badly the people there were going at each others throats in the comments. Nobody seemed able to agree on what precisely happened in 1971. Suggested explanations included:

  • Neoliberalism being declared the state religion by Grand Moff Richard Nixon
  • The gold standard being abolished
  • The oil crisis
  • The Republican and Democrat parties becoming increasingly divided
  • Declining birthrates
  • Institutional Racism

If any of you could give some explanations with, like, sources that aren’t just 10 pages of graphs with arrows pointing at 1971, that would be pretty great.

  • andyburke@fedia.io
    3·
    3 days ago

    If you feel this is “dismantled” then you have a long, difficult road ahead of you.

    These are setbacks, not the end.

    Even after all of these setbacks, one would be foolish to think things are worse for these persecuted groups now than in 1971.

    We absolutely can’t give up and let them win with these things they have done, but the fatalism I so often see and hear from people is so disappointing. You don’t win wars by talking about how your opponent has already won.

    We are in a battle in a long running war. It hasn’t been going well lately, at least not as well as it had been. I just don’t think this is all due to hippies in the 60s. 🤷‍♂️

    • reddwarf@feddit.nl
      1·
      3 days ago

      I just don’t think this is all due to hippies in the 60s. 🤷‍♂️

      I am sad and disappointed you failed to grasp what I meant in my diatribe of a post and keep pointing to hippies. I knew the moment I typed that word, bam, it would be someones focal point. So this one is on me, mea culpa. Now please, pretty please with cherries on top, stop referring to hippies as being the center point of my argument. You could not distill this from my post, again my mistake, but if you continue referring to hippies as my argument then that is from now on on you.

      Have a good one.

      • andyburke@fedia.io
        12·
        3 days ago

        Your argument is that hippies shocked the powerful. I think I get it. I just don’t agree.

        • reddwarf@feddit.nl
          1·
          2 days ago

          That is not correct, I tried to explain and guide, you do not listen. Behavior of a troll and will be treated as such. On the blocklist you go…

    • LandedGentry@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      3 days ago

      I think if you told LGBT Americans and women seeking abortions this is “just a setback” it would go over very poorly.

      When did I say “give up” or “this is the end”?

      And please drop the patronizing tone. I’m not a child. You can speak to me with the same level of respect you expect and deserve.

      • andyburke@fedia.io
        1·
        3 days ago

        It is. I will be fighting for them until we get it all back. 🤷‍♂️

        Edit: I think the commenter above edited their comment after I replied. What I replied to was a pithy “tell American women and trans people it’s a setback” with no real elaboration.

        • LandedGentry@lemmy.zipEnglish
          21·
          3 days ago

          So you do acknowledge that some of the above have been completely dismantled? That was the original discussion.

          Again, affirmative action is gone. As is the EEOA. As is federal protection for abortions. As is the acknowledgment that trans folks exist.

          These things literally do not exist anymore. They have to be completely resuscitated. And again, I didn’t say it’s all over and don’t try. So stop saying/implying that.

          • andyburke@fedia.io
            1·
            3 days ago

            You keep reading things into my comments that make me think either you are having a bad day or you’re not worth discussing this with. In either case: thanks, but I’ll be stepping out of this now.