Moderation has gotten out of control on the internet, where people abuse their powers to perpetuate narratives they like while censoring ones they don’t.
Where can I find lemmy instances that support freedom of speech? It’s fine if you don’t like it or have issues with it (feel free to move on without a reply!)
Update: Thanks to the recommendation of @occultist8128@infosec.pub, I checked the blocked instances of lemmy.world and found https://welppp.com/
I just came across it, so it may not actually support freedom of speech, but it looks promising.
If anyone has alternatives, still feel free to share them 🙂
If you want to spout conservative conspiracy theories Truth Social will have you.
Well said.
Left leaning values never implement freedom of speech. I have never understood that. The older I get - and I’m old - the more liberal I get.
I can’t actually become liberal because liberal excludes debate.
Please understand that “freedom of speech” does not mean that your speech is more important than the next persons. If you decide to start spewing hateful, racist, bigoted shit, the next person has the right to tell you to fuck off and block you, or ban you if it’s their instance. This isn’t treading on your freedom of expression or suppressing your speech, this is simply the other person exercising their right to not have to hear your shit and choosing instead to show you the door.
For example, if you invite someone into your home and they start spouting shit, you have the right to show them the door as you don’t have to listen to them go off in your home and around your guests. Similarly if you’re banned for not following the rules of an instance you’re not “being suppressed” you’re just a cunt.
Want to talk shit from a realm of safety without being called out? Do it from your own home where people don’t have to be around you. Make your own instance, or find a like-minded cesspool willing to put up with you.
Not the point of this thread.
If you don’t have an answer, feel free to move on somewhere else.
Damn that was a quick reply.
Don’t particularly care about the point of your thread.
Simply providing context since you seem to be confused as to why you can’t find a home based on your replies in this thread.
Don’t particularly care about the point of your thread.
That’s fine, I’m just going to ignore you then.
Goodbye.
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Whatever your goal is, there most likely is no such instance that satisfies your definition of “freedom of speech”. You should run your own instance where you have full control. Since most instances wouldn’t federate with such an instance, a relatively cheap VPS will do. Even some old computer you may have lying around.
That’s okay, it doesn’t have to be perfect.
Trying to split hairs on what is and is not free speech is just a distraction 🙂 which is why people who don’t like free speech always want to argue about it.
Here at db0 is about as free as you can get…
EXCEPT.
If your definition of “free speech” is “I want to be racist or homophobic”, which I suspect this is, go kick rocks loser.
I suspect that much of lemmy runs on this rule “Lastly, Don’t be a dick”, I know that my instance and the other *.nz do.
@prodajvodapavel@aggregatet.org Don’t be a dick, and you should be fine - if you want to be <edgy> then (as @empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com said) go kick rocks
I’m interested in servers where other people are allowed to express their views, bigoted as they may be.
go kick rocks loser.
If you don’t have an answer, you could always move on to another thread instead of insulting me. Reported.
This is the most ironic comment ever.
Fucking
bestworst of Lemmy shit right thereThis isn’t one of those instances.
Sure it is.
And even if it weren’t that doesn’t make your comment about you getting butt hurt from someone telling you to be better for seeking out where you can be a bigot any less ironic.
This isn’t one of those instances where freedom of speech is allowed.
Be respectful of others.
Gonna ignore you now since you don’t have an answer to my question.
Reported? That’s cute! You sound like an outstanding citizen!
Be respectful of others.
I guess we just have “Jim Crow” rules where mods pick and choose who to enforce them for 🤷
Another reason why I want an instance that doesn’t leave it up to the ‘whims’ of whoever is moderating to decide what gets to stay.
You end up with places like this that blatantly allow personal insults as long as you’re insulting the “correct” people.
I respect you. I hope you can pass it forward and at least try to respect others.
Thank you. I was referring to the user I reported.
He’s clearly breaking a rule, but I suspect the mods won’t care because he’s on “their side.”
I’m not sure what language you seek to use, but generally speaking, people don’t like to be called offensive terms.
I mean, if I want to identify as a [redacted] [redacted] [redacted] pregnant penguin, that’s my business. But it helps everyone’s morale to try to avoid bad words and offensive language.
There was a Nazi community you might have enjoyed, but they shut down because that’s what Twitter is for.
Pretty much any Lemmy instances I suspect supports freedom of speech. There’s not really any evidence that admins are colluding with the feds to control what you say.
What may be happening is admins deciding of their own volition to not platform certain types of comments. Notably that doesn’t stop you or anyone else from saying whatever; it just means you gotta do it somewhere else, like your own instance.
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I’m interested in servers where other people are allowed to express their views, bigoted as they may be.
If you don’t have an answer, feel free to move on to another thread.
Perhaps you should rephrase your post then to indicate you’re actually interested in bigotry affirming instances instead of instances that refrain from being a government entity that controls expression.
They are different.
Get a life, sadboy.
I checked the blocked instances of lemmy.world and found https://welppp.com/
Looking at the trust and safety about the instance, and reading your replies, it sounds like it will be the perfect fit for you.
Gonna ignore you now since you don’t have anything useful to contribute.
Goodbye.
So you must be a troll then. Someone gave you an exact link to what you want.
Moderation has gotten out of control on the internet, where people abuse their powers to perpetuate narratives they like while censoring ones they don’t.
As long as you dont be a dick or be racist you won’t be censored.
What type of things do you think are censored on lemmy?
I checked the blocked instances of lemmy.world and found https://welppp.com/ I just came across it, so it may not actually support freedom of speech, but it looks promising.
Yikes… You sure about this OP?
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And that’s just one unbanned user.
That’s not true, but I’m not here to debate it.
If you people don’t have an answer, feel free to move on to another thread.
Again, please answer: What type of things do you think are censored on lemmy? Note i’m not trying to assume anything about you, i’m genuinely asking.
Stay away from lemmy.ml and you’ll mostly be fine.
I’m interested in servers where other people are allowed to express their views, bigoted as they may be.
If you don’t have an answer, feel free to move on to another thread.
I’m interested in servers where other people are allowed to express their views, bigoted as they may be
Then there is none, at all. You won’t find it on the fediverse, the closest thing to what you described is 4chan.
actually, there are many servers that are purely free speech but they mostly are defederated.
I didn’t know that, thanks. But since most are defederated that kind of defeats the whole point. Makes sense though.
That’s not true, there are instances they are completely out nearly completely detached from the main cluster
That’s disappointing.
It seems like the decentralized nature of the fediverse would encourage instances that go against the grain to exist.
I’m still holding out that the instances are out there, just being suppressed by those who hate freedom of speech.
there are many actually, what you’re looking for are mostly defederated since it’s pure free speech and has no limit. just look after it on google.
I tried using search engines but couldn’t find anything.
Hilarious chaos has been pretty cool in this regard. I like that the admins don’t take themselves seriously and are very active here.
You can pay to get into communick.news or start your own instance.
Thanks, but I’m not interested in paying to get in.
I would like an instance to be as open as possible. Restricting creating new communities to admins doesn’t fly.
Honestly, it sounds like the best idea is to run your own instance. You can do it off of old, trash hardware.
I very well may ending up doing this. Thank you.
Check out !news_summary@lemmy.dbzer0.com I moderate in a very free speech friendly way.
Freedom of speech? No such thing anywhere.
Unfortunately, it’s seeming more and more like that’s the case 🙁
I’m still looking, though!
I hope you find it. Can you share if you did. I’m looking for something similar too
I’ll update this thread if I come across anything promising.
Freedom of speech never existed and as a rule can never exist. It’s an idea that has never been and will never be a reality. This is not to agree or disagree with whatever speech you don’t want censored. There is no place/time/environment where you can say whatever you want without some form of consequences from some subset of people.
Freedom of speech is and has always been a fantasy.
I’m not here to argue with you.
If you don’t have an answer and just want to debate what is or is not freedom of speech, feel free to move on to another thread.
If you don’t have an answer and just want to debate what is or is not freedom of speech, feel free to move on to another thread.
What happened to “freedom of speech”, eh bud?
This thread is such a beautiful example of freeze peach foghorns not giving a good damn about freedoms, they just want to force their bullshit on the biggest possible audience.
Gotta hand it to OP for the sizeable hole they dug themself in no time flat.
I already said this isn’t one of those instances.
I’m going to block you now, since you don’t have an answer to my question and just want to be a nuisance.
