Don’t get me wrong… - eviltoast
      • stetech@lemmy.world
        3·
        10 days ago

        To you, @toothpaste_ostrich@feddit.nl, and anyone else planning to do the switch:

        Back when I was still a VSC(odium) user, you needed to perform a small tweak to regain access to the quite useful extensions marketplace (in the sense of, paste the extension ID, see the same results as a M$ VSCode user*): There is a file named product.json which allows you to “regain” access if you populate it with the following values:

        {
  "extensionsGallery": {
    "serviceUrl": "https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/_apis/public/gallery",
    "itemUrl": "https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items",
    "cacheUrl": "https://vscode.blob.core.windows.net/gallery/index",
    "controlUrl": ""
  }
}

        (Taken from my old dotfiles, so this may be outdated, not sure. Also, you’ll have to look up the location of this file, it will differ depending on OS. On macOS it goes in ~/Library/Application Support/VSCodium.)

        *If you do not need this 1:1 identical functionality, you may try the Open VSX marketplace. But especially in a class setting, I found this very useful, since all the tutorials/instructions will work without needing adaptation.

  • udon@lemmy.world
    20·
    22 days ago

    tbh, one of the essential things vim gets right for me is that it’s designed as a text editor, not (only) a code editor. I use it for so much non-code text as well, but it feels weird opening a coding tool for such things.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
      61·
      21 days ago

      It’s great to use an editor designed and built when vietnam and leaded gas were all the rage.

  • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
    14·
    22 days ago

    I plan on moving to a nice Neovim setup eventually, but VSCodium is so convenient out of the box for a baby developer like me.

    • Integrate777@discuss.online
      6·
      22 days ago

      You’ll be glad to know that the difficulty comes from the syntax and very little from any programming skill level. You learn new ways of writing certain code structures like indented curly braces for example. Programming python might be easier than cpp in vim, not due to the language, but just cpp having more complex syntax to type.

      Tldr, almost exactly the same amount of effort whether you’ve been coding for two weeks or two years.

  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
    9·
    22 days ago

    It always surprises me how complicated some of the editor tooling sounds in threads like this. Obviously once you learn how to use these things they are powerful, but how do people have the patience to deal with all of that in the beginning? This is coming from a guy who writes scripts constantly to avoid doing tedious, error-prone things.

    Also I keep seeing people say vscode is slow. One of the reasons I switched to it is that it’s insanely fast compared to other editors I used (even those with far-inferior featuresets) 🤷‍♂️

    • MajorHavoc@programming.dev
      3·
      15 days ago

      but how do people have the patience to deal with all of that in the beginning?

      Whenever I was frustrated with a stupid undecipherable error message, I would just tweak my vim config a bit.

      Within a few minutes, my rage at the error would be completely replaced with rage toward vimscript.

      Then I would revert my vim config change, and return to the undecipherable error message with a fresh perspective. mainly relief that at least it’s not vimscript.

      Joking aside, I really did learn vim mostly during coffee breaks or while waiting on some long running build process.

  • HStone32@lemmy.world
    9·
    18 days ago

    The amount of time my classmates have spent dealing with vscode crashing, freezing, breaking, etc is way beyond negligible. And yet, I’m the weird guy apparently for preferring vim and GCC.

  • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
    101·
    22 days ago

    I would argue that vim is fantastic for a lot of editing and coding tasks, just not all of them.

    Where it utterly fails is with deep trees of files in codebases, like you see in Java or some Javascript/Typescript apps. Even with a robust suite of add-ons, you wind up backing into full-bore IDE territory to manage that much filesystem complexity. Only difference is that navigating and managing a large file tree w/o a mouse is kind of torture.

    • ivn@jlai.lu
      11·
      22 days ago

      Fuzzy finding really shine for this use case, no need for a mouse.

    • murtaza64@programming.dev
      5·
      22 days ago

      Once I got used to single-directory filetree browsing plus fuzzy finding, I have never been able to comfortably use a traditional filetree anymore. most of them are not designed for efficient keyboard use (vscode and intellij at least) and don’t really help understanding the structure of the project imo (unless there arent that many files). For massive projects I find it easier to spend the initial effort of learning a few directory names and the vague structure using oil.nvim, and then eventually I can just find what I need almost instantly by fuzzy finding.

    • expr@programming.dev
      3·
      22 days ago

      File-based navigation is often inefficient anyway (symbolic navigation is much better when you can), but if you do need it, that’s what fuzzy finders are for. Blows any mouse-based navigation out of the water.

      The only time a visual structure is useful is when you are actually just interested in learning how things are structured for whatever reason, but for that task, tree works just fine anyway.

  • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
    102·
    21 days ago

    My professor was always trying to get us to use vim or eMacs over an IDE to write our C programs. I’m sorry, I like using a mouse. I know, I know, blasphemy. I’m taking a shortcut. I’m a noob.

    When I absolutely have to, I go for vim, mostly because I know a few of the key bindings for it, but otherwise avoid it.

    • BaumGeist@lemmy.ml
      71·
      21 days ago

      I’m taking a shortcut

      more like a longcut. I save so much time and effort not having to switch my right hand between the mouse and keyboard constantly

      • phoneymouse@lemmy.world
        72·
        21 days ago

        I keep my hands on my laptop and use my thumb on the track pad. My hands don’t leave the keyboard. I actually never use extra mice or extra keyboards.