Forest of trees - eviltoast
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        I think you’re confusing electoral lesser-evilism with genuine support. I’m as fed up with ‘Israel can do nothing wrong because history’ types as the next guy, but they’re hardly a majority

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          I just don’t believe the vast majority of “lesser evil” Democrats because I saw them turn around and enthusiastically cheer on Harris, and then act like someone shot their dog when she lost. If you’re reluctantly supporting 99% Hitler over 100% Hitler, you don’t go to 99% Hitler rallies and you don’t care when he loses.

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          People are actively censoring and denying any responsibility from the Democrats regarding the genocide in Gaza.

          People are utter the words “Kamala was not perfect” while she is an active participant in a genocide.

          It is not “Israel can do nothing wrong because history”. Democrats are the main responsible party. Seemingly they can do no wrong because lesser evil.

          Have you ever watched one of the dystopian Biden state department briefings? It is lie after lie after lie.

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            People are actively censoring and denying any responsibility from the Democrats regarding the genocide in Gaza.

            Any examples on Lemmy?

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              Comments removed recently from TheOubliette for “misinformation,” which just means saying anything the .world mods personally disagree with

              The “finding out” should be that you lost while supporting genocide. Shouldn’t have done that, huh? Not very strategic or “adult in the room”, was it?

              Did you miss all of the people supporting a lesser evil Harris genocide? Many are in this thread right now trying to preemptively pass blame for everything Trump does onto those who opposed the genocide and refused to vote for its committers. This is in no way a pro-Palestinian space, either. This thread has many examples of “the pro Palestinian protesters were a Russian plot!” and, “hope you enjoy Palestinians dying, non-voters!” sentiments.

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              Primarily lemmy.world

              Some wild comments on /politics receiving upvotes there. People rebuking them get their comments removed and/or banned for ‘trolling’.

              When one visit that place they would think Donald Trump is the current president who is personally strangling every child in Gaza.

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          If you are demanding everyone vote for the people bypassing Congress to send more bombs to the obviously grotesque war criminal country, people are gonna think you support them, because you are.

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            Do you see me demanding anything? I’m literally only describing what has been my experience around Lemmy, and that your widespread genocide support is just your twisting of what people are actually saying. I think your hostile comment proves my point

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              I was using ‘you’ rhetorically rather than accusing you of anything. IDK how you see that as a hostile one. I’m just explaining why people get rubbed the wrong way by the the vote blue brigade.

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                Rubbed the wrong way is understandable, but that’s not supporting genocide. They’re not and I think you know that

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                  The endpoint of the lesser evilism voting is that you’re browbeating people to not protest vote and instead vote for one of the two parties, both promising more genocide, one of which is directly implicated in an entire year of it so far.

                  To any outside observer ( the people you’re trying to sway) it still looks like you support them and everything they’ve done.

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                    I know, it’s the age old reform or revolution debate, nothing new. It’s hardly genocide support. Full throated support of Israel’s flattening of Gaza gets you buried in downvotes, even on World

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        But then again, ‘instances dominated by Leftists’ are also filled with tankies who I also despise 🤷‍♀️ (inb4 calling me a lib)