Linux Mint and Framework Laptops Join Forces - eviltoast
Linux Mint partners with Framework Laptops, aiming for full compatibility with easy-to-upgrade, high-quality laptops for Linux users.
  • Damage@feddit.it
    892·
    16 days ago

    Far from my distro of choice but better compatibility with one distro usually translates to similar improvements on the others.
    I’m very interested in the framework laptops, a 14" UHD touchscreen one would be an instant buy, the current lineup is still tempting nonetheless.

    • model_tar_gz@lemmy.world
      51·
      15 days ago

      I feel similar but with a 16-17” 3K resolution. Honestly it’s the biggest thing keeping me away from a Linux laptop and in my ancient 15” MacBook Pro.

    • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.comEnglish
      3·
      16 days ago

      Agreed, a slight bump to 14" would be welcome. And maybe a more modern looking bottom shell, even for existing upgrade.

  • kryptonidas@lemmings.world
    22·
    15 days ago

    Good stuff good stuff. Have been a Mac user for years now. But the Framework laptops sure are tempting. Then it will be Linux all the way. More free and more sustainable.

    • kameecoding@lemmy.world
      5·
      15 days ago

      I have had gone Mac because framework wasn’t selling in my country, but got an email about two weeks back that they started selling here too, so once my macbook dies or becomes too slow I will be buying a framework

    • Mad_Punda@feddit.org
      3·
      15 days ago

      Same.
      I think I would need comparable energy efficiency as well though. For portable machines it’s hard to go for an x86_64 one when I can get so much more battery life out of an arm one.
      Getting official support for a distribution should help with a good out of the box battery life at least. But I think they’d need arm or riscv before it really becomes comparable?

    • TechnicallyColors@lemm.eeEnglish
      38·
      16 days ago

      In my experience, installing Linux Mint onto just about anything is trivial. IMO, the learning curve is more about using a different operating system than it being pre-installed.

      That said, as long as you have a preconfigured distro like Linux Mint I think it’s about as easy to use as Windows or Mac. The main difference is that people are already used to how Windows or Macs work, and have forgotten there’s plenty of jank that they’ve learned to avoid. There are still things Linux could improve on w/r/t new user experience but I think the gap is getting smaller every year.

      • illi@lemm.eeEnglish
        19·
        16 days ago

        Tbh, using Linux Mint feels really familiar and most software you can just install from the software center. In many ways it’s easier than setting up Windows. Sure, there are some specifics but for just every day use, there is not much of it.

        I put off trying Linux for months, only to find it’s not really much change at all. I even at one point had to buy new Windows license because I was not in a place where I had capacity to fiddle with new stuff and it was such an unnecessary and huge mistake. Finally bitnthe bullet a couple of months after and I didn’t boot to Windows for months now - and the transition was super smooth. I changed my primary boot drive from Win to Mint very shortly after the transition.

    • zaph@sh.itjust.works
      19·
      16 days ago

      if I have to do it all myself by following esoteric texts on the internet and pray to the silicon gods that everything works then I’m not gonna bother.

      There’s more to Linux than arch. Mint, along with many others, is just as easy to install as windows.

    • Squizzy@lemmy.world
      13·
      16 days ago

      Linux Mint is easier than windows for basic shit, it pretty much has an app store for all your software needs ready to go too.

      This month was my first move to linux and while I dont particularly no why I did it or where to go from here, it is definitely not a usability issue.

    • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caEnglish
      10·
      16 days ago

      The news of arch with valve and mint with framework brings a smile to my face.

      Preinstalled linux will become more common place.

    • TJDetweiler@lemmy.caEnglish
      10·
      16 days ago

      Friend, I am no Linux shill, but I switched to Mint last week on my secondary laptop, and let me tell you, it’s kinda cash and pretty easy.

      I had to verify the integrity and authenticity of the Mint download itself, but it’s straightforward and tells you how to do that. Once you’re done, you install the OS just like you would with Windows.

      Full disclosure, I don’t use the laptop for much, so no fiddling needed for me.

      Edit: I guess I am shilling it, but I mean I’m not a Linux fanboy

    • ERPAdvocate@sh.itjust.works
      7·
      15 days ago

      What country are you located in? If you’re actually interested I could do a reship, but I also understand if you’re not as interested given I’m just a random dude on Lemmy :)

    • Frostbeard@lemmy.world
      12·
      15 days ago

      I am semi-literate in “computers”. That means I can build my own PC, do no coding, but manage to troubleshoot most things by sheer stubborness, search and the odd question on a “forum” In other words not afraid of tech.

      I can’t be bothered to sift through endless overengineered BS for a PC to do the few things I need it to do these days. Web browser, Steam and streaming, while not scraping every ounce of personal data and sending it to various entities for nefarious purposes. I have Mint, it works out of the box and I don’t have to tinker with it, but enough customizability if I want to.

      • Lemongrab@lemmy.one
        3·
        15 days ago

        Uses the heavily deprecated XOrg display manager. XOrg has no isolation of windows from each other, meaning any app can record your screen without notice. All XOrg apps can also log keyboard presses arbitrarily. Since all apps share the same display server, they can easy correlate keypresses (text) with what app it is entered in, kinda like Windows Recall. Cinnamon, Mate, and XFCE all use XOrg. Cinnamon still doesnt default to Wayland.

        • Mwa@lemm.eeEnglish
          4·
          15 days ago

          Bruh every desktop besides window managers and kde/gnome are still on x11 mostly.
          Edit: cinnamon and xfce and lxqt has experimental/preview wayland. (updated to put lxqt in experimental)

          • Lemongrab@lemmy.one
            2·
            15 days ago

            Yes, most DEs use X11. I dont think that is a good thing. XFCE will take a bit to implement Wayland (approx 2 years according to their update schedule).

        • muhyb@programming.dev
          4·
          15 days ago

          Sure but Xorg has been like that forever and until recently distros started to default Wayland because of Nvidia, and there aren’t many of them yet. Also some programs don’t run well with Xwayland, some don’t run at all. You’re right from a technical privacy point but it’s not the end of the world and it doesn’t have to be privacy-invading, just don’t run proprietary stuff. By the way, CInnamon will switch to Wayland, when the experimental support is mature enough. Don’t know about MATE of XFCE.

          • Lemongrab@lemmy.one
            2·
            15 days ago

            Nah, I personally dont like its look, Ubuntu base, and slow update schedule. I think Bluefin or Aurora would be better starting distros.

                • Mwa@lemm.eeEnglish
                  1·
                  15 days ago

                  Yeah the upside of immutable distros, but I think nix implantation of immutablity is really great but nix has a learning curve and your .nix might get messy. + many of these immutable distros don’t offer many desktops.

          • Mwa@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            15 days ago

            i wish that site showed other desktops aswell rather then apps.

            • Aatube@kbin.melroy.org
              1·
              15 days ago

              fair, but i understand the choice as that’s a lot more work to do along with having to adopt some sort of arbitrary inclusion standard

              • Mwa@lemm.eeEnglish
                1·
                15 days ago

                l also wanted desktops as well due to it being hard finding a list of desktops that support wayland i just see gnome and kde + window managers.