Can I get more info on why these are showing up? I’ve never seen such a thing on F-Droid before.
Fennec and Mull 129.0.2 in F-Droid.org repository have 42 known security issues
Ref: https://forum.f-droid.org/t/fennec-vulnerability-recommended-to-uninstall/
The issue preventing updates should be resolved soon thanks to @linsui fixing it!
What is wrong with updating?
it was mentioned in a This Week In F-droid blog post around September. basically google fucked up an important development library, and any firefox forks (possibly some other apps too) could not be built anymore normally. of course google was unwilling to fix the issue, so linsui (and F-droid member) fixed the build process somehow, possibly temporarily.
you may ask how is this not a problem for the official release of the firefox app, and my answer is that they probably build this component for themselves, and fixed the problem in house (if they had it at all)
Right, but that comment that I quoted from the F-Droid forum makes it sound like there is some sort of issue updating to a build with the vulnerability patched. My Mull is on 131.0.3, and I do not remember having an issue updating it.
You’re probably getting your Mull updates via the DivestOS repository, not the official F-Droid repository.
There was a critical vulnerability found on Firefox some days ago: CVE-2024-9680. Fennec and Mull are forks of Firefox. They both fixed this issue already in their source code, BUT there is a problem preventing F-Droid from building these updated, fixed versions.
In the case of Mull, you can download the updated version from the DivestOS F-Droid repository: https://divestos.org/fdroid/official/, but if you are currently using the F-Droid version you will need to uninstall it first, since they have different signatures.
The current version has a critical security vulnerability (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2024-51/) but to fix it the new version compiled against libclang version 27 but Google decided to remove it from Android so the building pipeline needs to be adjusted.
There’s a long discussion: https://gitlab.com/relan/fennecbuild/-/merge_requests/63 , about building the newer version
In the meanwhile the app is a security hazard.
There should really be push notifications around installed apps with known vulns… Its tracked here: https://forum.f-droid.org/t/vulnerability-warnings-in-f-droid-app/20505
Could someone with a gitlab account open a feature request on the f droid repo?
I tried to open an account but it required email + cell phone (it picked up my VoIP number) and a credit card…
EDIT: I generated an RSS feed based off of Mozilla’s known vuln list. If anyone knows of a better way to do this, please let me know!
Are these two from the same maintainer? If not, considering that they both use Firefox Android as their base, does this mean there is a vulnerability in Firefox Android?
There was and it was fixed by the looks of it. Guessing these apps have not urgently pulled the fixes in and released an update, so F-droid is urging people not to use the apps until so
they pulled the fixes, but couldn’t build because google fucked up the NDK. my other comment has more details
Yes, there was a remote code execution vulnerability in the CSS engine of firefox a little while ago. If you’re on desktop version 131 or lower, update to 131.0.3 when possible. I don’t know how the versioning works for the Android versions here…
173? What happened to firefox versions? We just started the 130s
shit, woops. I’ve got memory issues, my bad. Let me fix that rq. Thanks for catching it.
Yeah that seems about right.
I don’t know how the versioning works for the Android versions here…
Android has the same versions as desktop here, which is why there is no differentiation. The main chunk of firefox is platform independent (and even used in thunderbird too).
So any firefox android app and fork thereof needs that version 131.0.3+ too (unless it is esr which is 128 currently).
For more frequent mull updates you can use DivestOS Official repo
What would people recommend in the short run as an alternative?
You can download an updated version of Mull with the security vulnerability fixed, from the DivestOS F-Droid repository: https://divestos.org/fdroid/official/. If you currently have the F-Droid version of Mull installed you will need to uninstall it first.
You can get the updated mull from the divestos repo, the issue is fixed there
Uninstalling my primary browser isn’t really a practical solution, what am I supposed to use, Chrome? How about fixing the version they’re shipping? Or should I be looking somewhere other than F-Droid for Android Firefox?
I changed to the Divest-repo for Mull, and they have an updated version that has fixed these security issues.
ETA: Different signing keys though, so you can’t just update it, but have to reinstall.
How do you do that?
You add https://divestos.org/apks/official/fdroid/repo/ as a repo in F-Droid settings. After that you can choose which repo to prefer for Mull.
Thank you
Theyre the distributor, the dont fix apps and its not their job to do so. Getting the same app from a different source wont change anything
huh? no one’s asking them to fix firefox, we’re asking that they just ship the latest version.
the warning states that several vulnerabilities have been fixed since firefox version 130, f-droid’s latest version of the package is 129: that very much makes it sound like the problem is wholly caused by f-droid not making version 130 available.
To ship it they have to work out how to build that version themselves from source though - that’s their whole thing. It’s not like a normal app store where they take pre-built binaries from the developer.
Well ok if thats the case you are completely right, as long as there isnt some kind of issue and others have already updated the package pushing security fixes asap is indeod important
huh? no one’s asking them to fix firefox, we’re asking that they just ship the latest version.
Huh to your huh? What’s significant about the latest version, other than that it includes requested fixes? This is 12 of one, a dozen of the other.
Iceraven is a Mozilla based standin.
Can install FFUpdater here:
https://f-droid.org/packages/de.marmaro.krt.ffupdater/
and then select it from there.
I just install Firefox from the Play Store. 🤷♂️ Is that bad?
Yes
Why?
Goggle bad :^)
But Firefox good…? Serious replies only please, I really am curious.
But Firefox good…?
Yes! They are the most important alternative to major corporate backed browsers, helping sustain a diversified browser ecosystem so that no one company can monopolize the web, and push it toward standards that reinforce their monopoly. Google has tried to lock down the phone, app market, browsing experience that sustains their ad networks, and regularly pushes new standards that de-emphasize things like RSS, and that break ad blocking functionality to sustain their monopoly and invade privacy.
Firefox reverses or mitigates most of those and are explicitly driven by a mission of sustaining an open web with standards that don’t bend the web to corporate dominance. Google’s cheeky dont be evil mantra was in reference to exactly the things they are doing now, and it’s a little too on the nose to their actual behavior so it’s no longer a slogan of theirs, cheeky or otherwise.
Exactly my point. I don’t get why there’s a fuss about installing it from the Play Store. Like, why is the Play Store bad, inherently. I’m not saying it isn’t, I’m curious as to why it would be.
I think it’s just that normal Firefox has more propietary stuff and more tracking by default
Ah okay, so in a way it’s more about Firefox than about Google. 👍
Or should I be looking somewhere other than F-Droid for Android Firefox?
FFUpdater, on F-Droid, manages updates for Firefox and other browsers. I counted nine variations of Firefox or forks of Firefox. As well as eight variations of Chromium based browsers that aren’t Chrome. So that’s 17 options.
It doesn’t say anything like that in Droid-ify. I don’t remember any recent reports of vulnerabilities either.
Sounds like Droidify is missing F-Droid features. More info on the web.
if you activated divestOS repos on droid-ify than you probably have the fixed update
We at least it got pulled
It us still there
I dealt with this on mine yesterday I used a Mozilla account to back up mull settings then uninstalled it and installed the new one from the DivestOS repo.
Yes it was a nuisance and I was a little annoyed it didn’t keep my extensions but I guess I had to do it if I wanted a browser that wasn’t a risk.
Its a nice feature
Many apps need security patches from time to time and web browsers tend to need the most security updates outside of the OS.
As far as security goes please use a up to date browser. I would recommend using the official repo for each of those apps.
Competition.
i genuinely don’t know what this is even supposed to mean
f-droid got paid by mozilla to add that warning, so that people switch to the normal version of firefox… it’s obvious… /s
edit: dang not even the /s is enough :{
Why is the F-Droid community on lemmy.ml??? (●´⌓`●)
why does that matter
Lemmylm doesn’t exactly have a good rap
I haven’t noticed? Please elaborate
Your welcome to create a new one elsewhere
I would like to, but unfortunately I’m not experienced enough to do something like this.
You hit “create community”
It takes little time but shouldn’t be that crazy
@possiblylinux127
> You hit “create community”That creates a community. Getting people to actually use it is a different and much more complicated thing.
AFAIK there is work underway to make more Lemmy communities more like Matrix rooms, by allowing the mods of 2 or more communities on different servers to federate them, so every post or comment to one of them goes to all of them. But this too is political and complicated.
P-political?
Me:
> allowing the mods of 2 or more communities on different servers to federate them, so every post or comment to one of them goes to all of them@P4ulin_Kbana
> P-political?If it’s not obvious why cooperation between the mods of different communities is political, I’m not sure how to explain it ; ) To be clear, I mean little-p political, not big-P Political (involving electoral politics and the accompanying partisanship).
The “P-political” meant stuttering
I know! I’m just talking about moderation and these other little things.
Maybe because lemmy.ml is “A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers.”
