Harris says she won’t stop Biden’s policy of sending weapons to Israel - eviltoast

In her first interview as the Democratic presidential nominee, Vice President Kamala Harris told CNN it was imperative to reach a ceasefire deal in Gaza, but made it clear that she would not alter President Joe Biden’s policy in the region.

However, when pressed on whether she would stop sending weapons to Israel she told Bash, “No, we have to get a deal done, Dana. We have to get a deal done.”

“Adopting an arms embargo against Israel’s assault on Gaza is not only a moral imperative but also a strategic move to defeat Trump and MAGA extremism. It is difficult for the Democratic candidate to champion democracy while arming Netanyahu’s authoritarian regime” reads a recent letter to Harris from the coalition Not Another Bomb.

Recent polling has repeatedly demonstrated that Democratic voters overwhelmingly support the conditioning of U.S. military aid. A Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR) survey from March found that 52% of Americans want the U.S. to halt weapons shipments to Israel in order to force a ceasefire. 62% of Biden voters said “The US should stop weapons shipments to Israel until Israel discontinues its attacks on the people of Gaza,” while only 14% disagreed with the statement.

The numbers from a June CBS News poll were even higher, with more than 60% of all voters and almost 80% of Democrats saying the U.S. shouldn’t send Israel weapons.

“The real question should have been, ‘When are you going to start enforcing U.S. law as it relates to arms shipments’ because what we are doing right now, with this United States policy, is in violation of not just international law, but also of American law, “said the Arab Center’s Yousef Munayyer in an interview with Democracy Now in response to the CNN segment. “Vice-President Harris made it clear in other parts of her interview that she wants to be a prosecutor. She wants to enforce the law, but Israel is clearly getting an exception from the Harris campaign.”

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    3 months ago

    80% of her base wants to stop sending weapons to Israel. Where the fuck is democracy?

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    Why?

    Seriously! Why!?

    I don’t remotely understand this policy, and it seems that pretty much noone would vote for it if they could avoid doing so.

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        US was saying this over and over and it is finally doing it, which is getting out of Middle East and letting them on their own. This is why there’s also so hard push for EVs.

        The policy is to allow selling weapons, not to give them, it is also not what Bibi hopes that US will enter another war and fight on his behalf.

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          Trying to claim that the US is trying to get out of the Middle East is both infantile and asinine. As long as there’s natural resources to be stolen, the US will be there. If there was such a fight for EV’s, the US wouldn’t be blocking Chinese EV’s from entering the market.

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            If there was such a fight for EV’s, the US wouldn’t be blocking Chinese EV’s from entering the market.

            So it would switch from being dependent on Saudi Arabia to China?

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              If China made a superior product at a good price, yes, I would buy Chinese.

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                  China doesn’t need to kill off western manufacturers, the West did that. Capitalism has turned the US from a predominantly manufacturing country to a predominant customer service country.

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      Israel is the country equivalent of the US sending an aircraft carrier outside a country it has tenuous relations with yet wants favorable trade. It’s how they cement the Petro-Dollar as the global currency and dominate financial capital.

      Ceasing support for Israel risks hurting US profits, so the US has a monetary interest in propping up the genocidal campaign while pretending to push for a ceasefire to appease domestic tensions, however poorly.

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      Her husband also made a pledge to, “fight antisemitism” when asked about Israel’s crimes.

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    How hard is it to field a presidential candidate that is not a senior citizen and who doesn’t wish to remain allies with countries engaged in genocide?

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      There are several, Claudia De La Cruz and Jill Stein. The problem is that the US isn’t a democracy and never was.

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      The problem is that the countries engaged in genocide allow the US a foothold in the middle East, so they can basically get away with anything. Losing that means throwing away all the military and strategic advantage in that region.

      Tl;dr you may as well wish for a president that wants to demilitarize the US

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        Honestly, I think it might be a deal breaker for me in November. I’m willing to put up with a lot of meat-brained nonsense, but dead children so out soldiers can have an easier commute to kill more is a nonstarter.

        If I do decide not to vote in a few months, and not voting gives Trump the presidency, it’s what we deserve.

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      My god what an apt description for American polititcs. (Illegal) Aliens vs. (Sexual) Predators.

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        Illegal ‘aliens’ are NOWHERE close to sexual predators by nature.

        Hell, by nature, illegal immigrants are more civil and respectable than ANY ‘natural born American’. Every metric and statistic will show you that.

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      Right because Trump will nuke Israel and single-handedly create a Palestinian state from the mountains to the sea. So definitely vote for him.

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        Biden/Harris Is providing enough money and weapons for Netanyahu to finish the job. While shitlibs are terrified of what Trump MIGHT do, they are distracted from whats actually happening

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        I don’t know if you’ve noticed but the last 10 months have taken place under the Biden administration.

        Edit: also nobody wants that wtf are you talking about

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      What? Trump advocates to completely glass Palestine. Biden position is to not block Israel from purchasing weapons, but also not getting dragged into a war itself and in fact getting out of Middle East. This is the real reason why West pushes so hard for EVs. US wants completely out, and if Israel wants to fight then let them use their own resources. Bibi would love if US instead of providing weapons would enter and do the job for them.

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    God they’re so stupid.

    Israel will not stop until we take away their ability to continue.

    When this war ends, Netanyahu will be removed from power for his prior crimes and likely jailed. He doesn’t want that and he’s murdering Palestinians to be sure he never sees the inside of a cell.

    I wish we had an actual viable option for ending this war. But my choices right now are vote for the genocide or flee the country because Trump has promised he will make my wife’s life hell day one.

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        While maybe not the original intent, his whole candidacy was based on “I’m not Trump.” That’s not a strategy that can work twice.

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    I have little hope that Biden, Harris, or (obviously) Trump will actually change course on the US’s Israel/Palestine policy—but to be fair, we shouldn’t expect the current vice president to openly say she would reverse the current president’s foreign policies even if she intended to.

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      Why not? She’s not the Secretary of State and she’s not setting foreign policy like Dick Cheney.

      Why must she adhere to Biden’s policies?

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        That $5 million in AIPAC cash says she must adhere to Biden’s/Israel’s policies.

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      This. It wouldn’t surprise me if it comes out years later she was basically forced in this position because of ongoing peace negotiations. She’s not stupid, her staff isn’t stupid, bring pro no refugee murder is a very obvious stance. Israel, for whatever fucking reason, has us by the balls. Hopefully one day that changes and they’re just out there in their own like every other asshole. Also BB knows the more fucked up shit he does during the election cycle the better chances he’ll get the guy he wants in. Watch peace suddenly be an option when it’s clear Harris is going to claim victory.

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    As much as I hate to admit this, I don’t think this will change my opinion on her. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s incredibly fucked up that they continue to give them the weapons they use to murder civilians. But I also know that pretty much every president that has been elected since Israel has existed as a country would do exactly the same. The vast majority of politicians are spineless when it comes to Israel and always will be, regardless of party affiliation. No matter who gets elected it will always be the same answer with varying degrees of severity. And even if Harris wanted to do something about it, do you really think she would say anything new until she knew for a fact she was going to win? She’d get ostracized by the majority of her own party and potentially lose a bunch of those fancy endorsements she just received.

    I’m not saying it’s right. In fact, it’s so fucked up it makes my blood boil. I’m just saying that politicians are fucking cowards and always will be.

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      But I also know that pretty much every president that has been elected since Israel has existed as a country would do exactly the same.

      Your knowledge is incorrect. Please seek out better sources.

      Reagan said Israel is carrying out a holocaust, and stopped them with a single phonecall. Bush Sr. stopped them by threatening arms embargo as well. Eisenhower and Ford couldn’t stomach their bloodlust either and called them off.

      Israel is a client state of the US, it’s best to think of it as the 51st state. They do what they’re told.

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          Israel is a nuclear client state. One overzealous president is all it takes to launch a nuke at Pakistan and cause a global calamity.

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          Not just Reagan, Margaret Thatcher did the same thing. Imagine being to the right of people like Reagan and Thatcher.

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      Clearly the most efficient way to stop this genocide is to wait until all the Palestinians have been murdered. Then no more can be murdered. Thus no more genocide. Obviously you just don’t understand the complexities of the situation. It’s the only way to ensure the genocide stops!

      I fucking hate myself for knowing that I’ll be voting for her. Jesus

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        Then don’t vote for her, It’s very simple. If you keep rewarding politicians for bad behavior, that behavior never gets better. It’s like giving a dog a cookie every time it pisses on the floor. The dog assumes that you want it to piss on the floor.