But you can't beat the convenience - eviltoast
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    4 months ago

    What can I do about it? Romans could use pots made of other metals or materials, but whatever I use I’m going to get microplastics anyway. It would require a systemic change.

      • NaoPb
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        4 months ago

        Me too. This is mainly my view on climate change as well since I’ve done what I can, but I still get confronted with terrible news and imagery.

    • coffee_whatever@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Even a systemic change wouldn’t do that much, plastic doesn’t break down into other things, it only separates into smaller pieces.

      Even if we stopped using all plastic right now, the plastic that is already in the environment would still enter the food chain and accumulate in the top of it.

      • Soup@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Does that mean we shouldn’t do anything at all? C’mon, try a little.

      • JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
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        4 months ago

        Does that mean I’ll be safer if I eat things nearer the bottom of the food chain, like plants?

        • coffee_whatever@lemmy.world
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          I don’t know. There’s a lot of plastic in the ocean, and as far as I know there are ways for it to go back into the rest of the ecosystem like water does, so plants will probably gather it as well. Less than animals but still some.

          Regardless of whether you eat meat or not, you will get some of it in your system. Whether that’s bad, and how much of it could cause issues is still unknown. From what I know there aren’t any studies that state what effect microplastics have on our bodies. Probably because you would need a significant amount of people without any in their bodies as a base group, and with how much plastic is used by us every day that would be difficult to find.

          Although, eating less meat is generally healthier, better for the ecosystem and cheaper (especially if you grow stuff, even in small pots near a window) so if you can switch to vegan/vegetarian diet without any health problems, you should give it a try but be mindful of your diatery needs, it’s easy to not get enough vitamins or proteins if you don’t plan your meals well which could lead to anaemia. Even if it doesn’t work for you, at least you will know more recipes.

          Also, I’m not a scientist, biologist or anyone with any credibility in this field, I’m a software developer and my biology is on high school level, so take everything I said here with a grain of salt since I may be wrong.

      • Eheran@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Not every plastic is as damaging. If it is biodegradable, it will not accumulate at all.

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            4 months ago

            Virtually none of it bordering on actually none of it, including the so-called biodegradable plastics. Those typically have to be composted in very specific industrial composting conditions to function any differently than normal plastic.

    • RBG@discuss.tchncs.de
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      4 months ago

      Their water pipes were made of lead too though. That’s your systemic change right there.

  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Take a look at this fan from the first half of the 20th century:

    Note that it has a guard which protects the blades in case the fan falls over. However, the guard does not protect a person from accidentally sticking his fingers into the fan. Why not? It’s not exactly complicated, it would have taken just a little more wire, and I’m sure people back then didn’t enjoy having their fingers struck by metal blades any more than we would now.

    People can be weird about safety…

  • CodingCarpenter@lemm.ee
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    Hell yeah fuck the Romans. We know we’re poisoning ourselves that’s a huge distinction. We’re dumb in a different way

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        I mean BBB filter threshold is anywhere from 2.3 to 50 nm depending on pressure. Even though microplastics can get down to 1nm that is like an outlier. So in a situation where virtually almost all of microplastics must be filtered out, how does one get such a huge percentage as 0.1%?

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        4 months ago

        It can’t help that so much of our food is packaged in plastic to keep water in or out.

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    4 months ago

    Fuck convenience, return to Stone age, I’m making everything out of rock!! Ooga booga mada faka /hj