No, intelligence is not like height - eviltoast
  • myplacedk@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Funny, but that’s not how it works. A (good) intelligence test doesn’t ask you about stuff you learn in school. They are designed specifically to not have this problem.

    (Some of them have categories where education helps you. This is on purpose and should have little influence on the final score. This is for the more detailed results.)

    • Sailor Sega Saturn@awful.systems
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      4 months ago

      Everyone knows a good intelligence test asks you Raven’s progressive matrices – the one true sign of intelligence – and nothing else

      Edit: I was of course joking, but from my own link:

      The high IQ societies Intertel and the International Society for Philosophical Enquiry (ISPE) accept the RAPM as a qualification for admission,[14][15] and so does the International High IQ Society.[16] The Triple Nine Society used to accept the Advanced Progressive Matrices as one of their admission tests. They still accept a raw score of at least 35 out of 36 on Set II of the RAPM if scored before April 2014.[17]

      Sounds like some pretty depressing societies. Give me a secret cool kids club that’s all about mazes any day of the week. I like mazes.

      • self@awful.systemsM
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        4 months ago

        my brain is generating a Rationalist version of That’s So Raven where instead of psychic powers she scored really high on an online IQ test and constantly updates her Bayesian priors, and I feel like I need to drink this idea out of existence before Yud turns it into an extensive fan fiction

          • self@awful.systemsM
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            4 months ago

            don’t threaten me with a good time

            now, between writing Rationalist Raven and braving the attic in a respirator (I’m terribly allergic to the dust around here) to finally replace my AC’s filters… it could go either way

          • BlueMonday1984@awful.systems
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            4 months ago

            You could also ask ChatGPT to make it for you. The idea’s complete garbage unworthy of an actual writer’s time, so I’d let it slide in this case

      • LordGimp@lemm.ee
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        4 months ago

        Intelligence to me has always meant the ability to quickly absorb and apply new information. Best test I ever took for this (imo) was a kids mensa test I took forever ago on the assumption it’d look good on a college application. They tell you a short story at the beginning of the test, let you read along if you like, and then give you an hour and a half of the standard math, spelling, reading comp, and logic questions. Then the last 20 minutes they spend grilling you about the story from the beginning, with intentionally misleading questions and open ended prompts that leave plenty of room for you to hang yourself. The whole point was to see how well you absorbed the information after a long and mentally taxing distraction.

        Jokes on them. I ended up going to community and falling in love with welding.

      • bitofhope@awful.systems
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        4 months ago

        Half of the Finnish Defence Forces aptitude test is just RPM. The other half is a bizarre and inscrutable questionnaire, which includes questions like “is your father a good man” and infamously “would you like to be a florist”.

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            If it were about that, maybe they hadn’t decided I’m NCO material and forced me into a full year of service instead of half.

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          I’ve had to do a number of “aptitude tests” in conjunction with applying for jobs[1] and RPMs have been a staple.

          1. Swedish Defense Force aptitude test (you kind of stand out as middle aged among all the yoofs taking it)
          2. one for a job at a state-owned enterprise
          3. one for a job at an outfit selling this stuff for other companies[2]

          I never really got a good score on them either!


          [1] I don’t really like this but beggars can’t be choosers

          [2] like I said, beggars can’t be choosers, lucklily I didn’t have to take the job

    • Jack Riddle@sh.itjust.works
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      4 months ago

      Please read the mismeasure of man I beg ef you. Intelligence tests are fucking bullshit and all the testmakers have known it from the very beginning. Unless you are of the opinion that the noble art of skull-measuring holds any water, that is.