Jill Stein, Claudia De la Cruz, and Cornel West urge voters to Abandon Harris over Gaza - eviltoast
  • HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Because the Biden administration is the one committing genocide in Gaza. Not the Trump administration.

    Is that too hard for you to understand?

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Is that too hard for you to understand?

      If you’re going to be a condescending, the least you could do is actually be accurate.

      Because the Biden administration is the one committing genocide in Gaza. Not the Trump administration.

      Neither Biden, his administration, nor American troops in general are actively engaged in combat operations in Gaza. Sure, we’re supplying arms, and yes, we can be critical of biden.

      By all means. I certainly am and have been.

      However, Harris doesn’t set his administration’s policy agenda. that’s why it’s the “Biden Administration” and not “the Harris Administration”, right?

      Further, is it really that hard to grasp that in our stupid electoral system the choice is between either Trump or Harris, and that there are no circumstances at all in which Trump would be more beneficial to Palestinians?

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        3 months ago

        Further, is it really that hard to grasp that in our stupid electoral system the choice is between either Trump or Harris

        Voting third-party is also a choice.

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              3 months ago

              Pretty stupid reason to drop Harris when the other team would be far worse on that one issue.

              Unless, of course, the real motivation is as a spoiler candidate.

              So is there an “Abandon Trump” campaign? Because trump is universally worse on Gaza.

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                3 months ago

                Unless, of course, the real motivation is as a spoiler candidate.

                You’re honestly just driving me away from Harris.

                • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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                  3 months ago

                  Hey man, vote how you want.

                  We both know that the election is between Harris and Trump, at least baring some unforeseeable thing happening like trump dying from choking down a hamburger.

                  We also know that Stein has had dinner with Putin, and wants to pull the US out of nato, and in none of the pro-stein/Green Party stuff here, has there been any criticism of trump.

                  I would love it if the US didn’t have a de facto 2 party system, but we do. That’s how it is. Not voting for Harris isn’t a vote for trump, but then, you should ask yourself which of the two candidates of the 2 parties that actually have a chance, is the one who best represents you.

                  Because if you care about Gaza and what Israel is doing, that’s not trump.

                • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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                  3 months ago

                  Oh no! I better stop saying how I see things, if you’re being driven away from Harris. My sincerest apologies.

                  • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
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                    Oh no! I better stop saying how I see things

                    Well to be fair, I said how I see things and it inspired people to actually follow me around Lemmy and vote down every single article I post, regardless of content. So…

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                  3 months ago

                  You’re honestly just driving me away from Harris.

                  I feel same way. This crowd and their bullying attitude has definitely reinforced my choice to vote third party. I’m more proud of it every day that I read replies here.

        • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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          3 months ago

          A choice that helps elect a side you’re least aligned with.

          Let’s say, for the sake of argument, you agree with Harris 90% of the time, and you agree with Trump, I dunno, 4% of the time (hey, he’s right on not taxing tips, right?)

          But your 10% disagreement causes you to vote 3rd party.

          That 3rd party has 0 chance of winning. Source: No 3rd party has won ANY state since 1968, and even then, they didn’t win enough to sway the election.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_United_States_presidential_election

          So you’ve removed a vote from a viable candidate, whom you agree with 90% of the time, and given it to a non-viable candidate. Had they not been an option, your vote would have supported the candidate most in line with you.