look, the enshittification isn't going to do *itself* - eviltoast
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    4 months ago

    In my experience, mice don’t really break since optical tracking replaced rollerballs.

    What does happen is that the exterior gets grody and the glidepads wear out.

    A true “forever mouse” would be one where the stuff that gets worn out is easy to clean or replace. Ideally the tracking unit itself can be replaced, although that might be excessive.

    For Logitech to produce a mouse like this, however, would require them to make a multi-decade commitment to supply parts and specs, which is basically just a cost sink in today’s world.

    • Soyweiser@awful.systems
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      4 months ago

      In my experience, mice don’t really break since optical tracking replaced rollerballs.

      Sadly they do, sometimes they stop being able to click, or do double clicks or other weirdness. I have gone through a few mice over the years. Oddly, the newer a mouse the more likely this seems to be the case. Don’t throw away old but working peripherals.

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        I have been trying to navigate the current mouse market, I am hoping that these new fancy “good for 20 million clicks” switches that have migrated from mechanical keyboards over to mice mean that my next mouse will last for 20 years or so. Now to just find a way to differentiate between the 500,000 mice that are all at the €45 price point with the same form factor and specs.

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          yeah my 3~4y old logitech g502 has a button that’s progressively been coming loose for some months now, and I don’t think there’s much I can do about it. switch seems fine, but ugh

          very not keen to have to hunt for a replacement

      • Sailor Sega Saturn@awful.systems
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        4 months ago

        Ugh the universe isn’t fair all my favorite mice at home have broken while my work mouse is still going strong after most of a decade (well except for the glide pad which has indeed worn away into nothingness, now it glides on the grody exterior!)

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      4 months ago

      Ploopy kinda fills that niche, as the bits are replaceable and the non-generic parts don’t require stuff like your own injection moulding equipment. Not quite there yet, nor do they have a the full range of stuff you might want (and what they do have isn’t cheap), but it’s a nice start.

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        4 months ago

        Thanks for the link, I did not know about this outfit (and jeez, I know naming stuff is hard, but “Ploopy” is kinda bad as a company name).

        While I appreciate what they’re trying to do, the aesthetics are very much “hackerspace afficionado”. Logi could presumably bring premium materials and finishing to a “forever mouse”.

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          (and jeez, I know naming stuff is hard, but “Ploopy” is kinda bad as a company name).

          Naming themselves after something which implies immortality would’ve been my pick - something like “Theseus”, to suggest a Ship-of-Theseus kind of immortality, I dunno.

      • sc_griffith@awful.systems
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        4 months ago

        apparently there was a yellow soda in the 90s named “urge.” until now that was the worst product name I’d heard

    • V0ldek@awful.systems
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      4 months ago

      Tracer Sniper was the best mouse ever made. It lasted me a decade until one day the sensor just passed away into the night.

      I then replaced three mice in the past ~5 years, each and every single one of them because the wheel broke (either the middle click or the scroll)

    • Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      The main reason I’ve had to replace mice is higher resolutions. My old Microsoft Intellipoint lasted a decade and still works today but its optics were designed for a 800x600 world.