Ohio Supreme Court rules boneless chicken wings can have bones - eviltoast
  • reflectedodds@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    A guy ate boneless wings and got a bone stuck in his throat leading to multiple surgeries so he sued. But he didn’t notice when it happened?

    The longer I think about this the more I agree with the decision. It sounds dumb, there shouldn’t be bones, but if you’re chopping up a chicken breast with the rib bones still attached, I could see how a bone could accidentally make its way into a nugget. So I can understand what they mean by saying it’s a cooking style.

    • Chozo@fedia.io
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      3 months ago

      I disagree. We shouldn’t carve exceptions into the law for carelessness, IMO. If bones are making it through the deboning process, then the deboning process is inadequate. The solution is to do better at deboning, not to loosen the requirements on how you label the product.

      If anything, the legislation this should’ve brought about is one that puts a higher requirement on what can or cannot be called “boneless”. Words have meaning, and if we just pretend they don’t, people get hurt. Hell, we have a stricter legal definition for “cheese” than “boneless”. Nobody’s going to injure themselves on a slice of Kraft because they mistook it for real cheese, but you can seriously hurt yourself by eating something that was promised to be boneless and that turns out to be untrue.

      • Khanzarate@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        We aren’t really carving an exception though. The condition of something being free of another substance is always a percentage chance.

        My hand sanitizer only kills 99.99% of germs. Should it not be allowed to be called hand sanitizer because it cannot kill all of them? What should it be called? Hand almost-sanitizer? Those germs could get me pretty sick if I lose the cosmic lottery.

        There’s always a point in reality where “good enough” is actually good enough.

        I’m not actually saying this company has or hasn’t met that standard, I’m not an expert in poultry production techniques, but saying something needs to be 100% perfect to be sold doesn’t make things safer it just means it’d be illegal to debone wings without grinding up the chicken. I dunno the actual odds but it sounds like you’re already more likely to be struck by lightning than this occurring, and I’m still willing to go outside while its raining.

        • rudyharrelson@lemmy.radio
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          3 months ago

          My hand sanitizer only kills 99.99% of germs. Should it not be allowed to be called hand sanitizer because it cannot kill all of them?

          I’d agree with this comparison if the ruling meant that they had to advertise their wings as “~99.9% boneless” the same way hand sanitizer labels itself as being ~99.9% effective.

          • Delphia@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            The menu next week will contain a asterisk small print “customers are advised that while all care is taken, some bones may be present”

          • Khanzarate@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            That’d be funny and also still accurate. It’d end up being one of those asterisks.

            I think that’s a fair result.

            Either way, they’d be allowed to sell the 99.99% boneless wings, despite them technically not being guaranteed boneless.

        • Ookami38@sh.itjust.works
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          3 months ago

          Your hand sanitizer doesn’t advertise germ-free, it advertises 99.9% germ free. It’d be a problem if they advertised it as germ free, and it wasn’t

          99.9% boneless wings, sure. That’s fine. You expect a leftover bone here and there. Who the fuck is gonna buy 99.9% boneless wings, though? No one. You know that, I know that, and advertisers know that. So they label it in a misleading factor to sell more.

    • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Kinda like the woman who sued McDonalds for hot coffee, and then people were like “DUH! COFFEE IS HOT!!!”

      But it turns out she was right to sue. Coffee should be hot, but not lava coffee cup melting hot.

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        3 months ago

        And worse on the coffee one, they found McDonald’s kept it boiling hot so patrons would drink less of it in the store waiting for it to cool and they’d leave before getting a refill. In short, McDonald’s made it uncomfortably hot to save money.

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          Not only that, but McDonald’s had been warned previously that the temperature they kept it at was literally dangerous and could cause burns instantly. They chose to keep it there intentionally, ignoring the safety issue they were already told could happen.

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          3 months ago

          That and it stays fresh longer when kept near boiling so they didn’t have to brew as often.

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        3 months ago

        Kind of. That was a little different though, it wasn’t an accident. Boiling coffee was just standard procedure for McDonalds. So I agree she was right to sue.

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      3 months ago

      “Boneless” is not a “style” in the same way that a sauce can be different. If you ordered a porterhouse and got a NY strip, that’s not a different style- it’s a different cut of meat. (They’re opposite sides of a T bone.) saying a NY strip is a “style” of porterhouse isn’t anymore right.

      If you order “boneless” wings, you expect them to be without bones. (This is both true of the final customer as well as the restaurant.). Expecting the customer at a restaurant to check their food to make sure it’s safe is weird. Unless they get to walk in the back and check everything, they can’t be reasonably expected to know that “oh hey, we might have shit QC.”

      Ultimately, the restaurant had a duty of care to ensure the food was safe. And guess what? So did the supplier. They’re both negligent.