The Police Aren't Here to Protect You, Uvalde Children, or Presidential Candidates - eviltoast
  • aviationeast@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Local police shouldn’t be the ones protecting the presenditial candidates, they should be protecting the crowd. Secret Service is there for the candidate.

    • rhacer@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Alright, so what did this cop do to protect the crowd? I do believe at least once person in the crowd died.

      • bjorney@lemmy.ca
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        4 months ago

        He investigated the report that there was a shooter on the roof?

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          And if the report above is correct, he saw a person with a gun, tucked his tail between his legs and ran.

          In this thread we have heard “no big deal, it’s the Secret Service’s job to protect Trump.” We have also heard “it’s local police’s job to protect the crowd.”

          Perchance did you see the Secret Service’s response to gun shots? A half dozen of them ran into the line of fire and surrounded the person they were charged to protect.

          The cop saw a gun, knew there were hundreds of people in harm’s way and scarpered. While the secret service put themselves in harms way to do their jobs.

          • bjorney@lemmy.ca
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            4 months ago

            “retreated down the ladder” is all the information we have to go on - presumably the cop was still climbing the ladder - really hard to draw your sidearm and incapacitate someone who has a rifle trained on you while simultaneously holding on to a ladder

            • rhacer@lemmy.world
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              4 months ago

              I hate ladders! In fact they terrify me. While others in this world are graceful and coordinated, I most certainly am not, so every time I’m on a ladder my brain insists on telling me all the things that my awkwardness might cause to happen.

              That said, this past Saturday I was on a ladder. While on that ladder I managed to a) hold a nail against the wall and b) hammer said nail into the wall. That took two hands. Drawing a weapon takes one.

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                4 months ago

                a) hold a nail against the wall and b) hammer said nail into the wall. That took two hands. Drawing a weapon takes one.

                Cool, I’m sure you also managed to hammer that nail in faster than the reaction time of the hypothetical assailant with a gun pointed at your head too, right?

                Someone halfway up a ladder wouldn’t have even have a clean draw in that scenario without needing to ascend 2-3 more rungs to get their torso over the lip of the roof

                • BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one
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                  4 months ago

                  Why are you arguing with morons who don’t know the first thing about guns in an online community where likely less than 1% own one, let alone know how to handle one safely?

                  You are literally arguing with people here who have the equivalent knowledge similar to toddlers in regards to firearms.

                  Likely bjorney@lemmy.ca doesn’t know about firearms nor owns one and is simply armchair arguing about something they know nothing about.

    • Frozengyro@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      I think local police are assigned to these events to augment SS in protecting whoever they are protecting.

      • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemmings.world
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        4 months ago

        Bingo. They are not there have a good time. The event paid for police presence for the permit to hold the event and likely required by many laws on crowd size and insurance policy.