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    4 months ago

    Being targeted by Nazis doesn’t mean you did anything wrong. And thus, there’s nothing you can avoid doing, that will protect you from Nazis.

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      4 months ago

      This is true, but labelling everyone you don’t like or don’t agree with a “Nazi” (or “Communist/Socialist” if you’re politically right) is not very intelligent. [Interesting fact, Nazis were actually socialists. The term Nazi is a shortened version of the german term for National Socialist, which is part of their full name: National Socialist Workers Party of Germany.]

      Being targetted by everyone probably does mean you did something wrong. That’s why actual, real Nazis ARE targetted by everyone.

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        Nazis in the 1940s were actually socialists

        No, they were not. Not at all, not even a little.

        You can’t eat urinal cake and great danes don’t get a vote in the national elections in Denmark.

        Sometimes a name is misleading.

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          Sometimes a name is misleading.

          That’s right. The name of the party “national socialists” was chosen carefully.

          It seems a contradiction in itself, because nationalists would have meant the far right, and socialists would have meant the far left (and there were actually lots of other parties in between at that time before he took all the power). In truth he wanted to deceive both sides by the name.

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          Well…. You can eat a urinal cake. I’m not sure why you’d want to, and it most certainly wouldn’t be all that fun.

          But you could.

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          I mean, they were against capitalism, and advocated the nationalization of services like health care and public transportation. These are socialist values. They even claimed many Christians were political enemies of Germany.

          Granted, later on it would likely be more accurate to call them “Hitlerists,” because Hitler literally didn’t care about socialism or nationalism and used them only as a stepping stool to get what he wanted. But the point still stands that their values that got their party to popularity were socialist in nature.

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            No, you got that very wrong.

            If you really want to ask for values in their ideology, it was the values of fascism (not much in terms of ‘values’ according to today’s understanding)

            But it wasn’t the values that brought them votes at all. It was populism and terrorism.

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        Nazis were actually socialists

        No more than the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea is democratic.

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        Hitler hated that name and killed all the protosocialist party members during the night of the long knives

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          If he hated it then why didn’t he change it? Who would have questioned him, the guy had nearly unreigned power and could have easily changed it. I never said Hitler was a socialist. He was just selfish (among other unsavory things).

          Regardless, since this is quite offtopic I will refrain from posting further here. Perhaps if a future topic arises we may meet again in that thread.

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            When they changed the name, Hitler wasn’t in power yet. By the time they became in power, the name stuck.

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        They were as much socialist as North Korea is a Democratic People’s Republic.

        The Nazis frequently fought against actual socialists and communists during the Weimar Republic period and put them in work and death camps once those got going. They cracked down on workers unions too.

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        Exactly. That’s why everyone knows where to find the most democratic Republic country in the world. The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. It’s right there in the name.

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        Interesting fact, Nazis were actually socialists. The term Nazi is a shortened version of the german term for National Socialist, which is part of their full name: National Socialist Workers Party of Germany

        I found one of the suckers that would vote for the Nazi party because they put {{Popular political ideology here}} in their name.