Perma banned for 'inciting violence' with no previous strikes on 12 year old account - eviltoast

On a discussion about a revolution in Canada I merely suggested that there are no resources to protect the rich in the event of a revolution breaking out.

I even went on to explain I can’t even kill ants though so count me out.

Perma banned for inciting violence, appeal gives you 100 characters to explain so I won’t bother. How do you appeal a site wide ban in one sentence?

12 years of contributing to IT communities and it’s all gone, that’s what I’m upset about.

  • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
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    Whoever enforces rules in Reddit has the same basic reading comprehension of a potato that has been hit multiple times with a hoe, and then left to rot under the Summer heat. In fact I bet “being functionally illiterate” is a requirement to work for Reddit, just like “lacking dignity” is to be a moderator there nowadays.

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      I legit got banned for 3 days site wide from Reddit because my comment included “10.0.1.35” which is a private network address that only exists in your network, not on the internet.

      Messages from Reddit

    • rabber@lemmy.caOP
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      I wonder if they did a deep dive through my comments and saw more they didn’t like. It just doesn’t make sense given the flagged comment alone

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        What I’m going to say is just a hypothesis from my part. It might be bollocks. But.

        For a long time I’ve suspected that Reddit runs some sort of algorithm to predict the profitability of each user, based on factors like

        • platform used (desktop vs. mobile)
        • running / not running an ad blocker
        • if not running an ad blocker, clicking on ads or not
        • likelihood of that user to buy Reddit junk (e.g. the “coins” of the past)
        • likelihood of that user to attract newer users
        • etc.

        and then the output of that algorithm is taken into account when handling rule violation. As in: you can go rogue and they’ll give you a short ban if you’re deemed profitable, or a small offence will give you a permaban if unprofitable.

        With that said I don’t think that they manually review your earlier posts/comments before enforcing the rules.

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          Yeah I exclusively used reddit through firefox on android with script blocker and adblocker. Never spent a dime on reddit. This explains a lot if true

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            Eh, sounds like a conspiracy theory. It’s the kind of thing that would look really bad if it got out, but doesn’t have much upside.

            If it signifit affected profits, maybe, but this doesn’t register there.

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              Eh, sounds like a conspiracy theory.

              Not really, even if false. It’s just a hypothesis.

              It’s the kind of thing that would look really bad if it got out, but doesn’t have much upside.

              We [current and former Reddit users] babble a lot about shit the admins do. If this got out, it wouldn’t cause much damage to the already barely existent reputation of that shithole; and as HelixDab2 said, the ones still in that shithole would outrage for 15min then go back as if nothing happened.

              If it significantly affected profits, maybe, but this doesn’t register there.

              I think that a system like this would actually increase the margin of profit, in the medium term. Because it would allow them to cut some slack to the cash cows, while you’re still removing some users who are pissing the others off.

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              How would it “look bad”? The people that are paying for Reddit wouldn’t give a shit, and the people that aren’t making the site profitable would be outraged for 15 minutes, and then get over it.

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          I used reddit on desktop, didnt have an ad blocker, ocassionally clicked on ads (usually by mistake), and bought a shitload of coins. I also contributed a lot of content that people found helpful. Didnt stop me getting perma banned for reasons that I still dont understand.

          I really dont think there is any algorithm or any logic or rationale behind the ban process at all, its almost completely aritrary

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      6 months ago

      Site wide. And believe me I have said way more vile things than this in the past.

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      Yup. Seems every time I get the best of some troll (in my mind at least) they report the comment and I get banned. I could be wrong, but my last banning was for literally calling someone a troll. LOL.

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    Same thing happened to me. My comment was “kid deserved it” on a video where, at school a kid called a teacher the n-word and then squared up to fight him. The teacher punched the kid in the face.

    That was my comment and there were others saying pretty much the same thing both above and below my comment. 10,000 karma gone.

    I’ve been banned from subs before but never from the whole site. Interestingly that was not my only account banned. My main account (which I never post on) was also banned and when I made a new account, that was banned as well.

    My theory is that someone flagged me for something and then went to all my posts and also flagged them and a limit was reached that just autobans site wide. That’s the theory anyway.

    The funny thing is that all my comments are pretty benign and I actively fight against racism and bigotry on Reddit. I was one of the good guys!

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    the amount of relief that I felt when I was finally permanently banned from Reddit

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      I still admit to finding it incredibly useful in certain ways

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    It’s not consistent either. I made a joke about using child molesters to see if ancient torture methods actually worked or not and got permabanned. At the same time the front page had a post about some shitty thing HP did with their printers and 100s of the top comments were saying the same kind of shit about their executives. None of those were even removed. I linked it when I appealed but just got the canned “fuck you” message.

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    I made r/Artisanvideos and they still banned me over a tongue in cheek comment for “inciting violence” right around the time the capitol riots were happening. I think the truth of the matter is someone there getting rid of ideological opposition and using whatever technicality they can. It’s kinda like how the scotus is positioning themselves to decide whether a crime is official or personal.

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    Yeah, they always loved protecting their rich baby kid spez while letting Neonazis fantasise about genocides.

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      If what OP is narrating is accurate, it doesn’t really matter. OP was predicting what he believes that is going to happen, not telling people what to do. (“Inciting violence” would be the later, not the former.)

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      I think it’s going to happen naturally, canadian youth have basically nothing to lose at this point. We also have mass immigration from india the last few years, majority are aged 25-40 males, and we are already dealing with gang violence which we’ve never had in canada before, things just seem to be ramping up.

      /r/CanadianTeachers is a fascinating insight into the way kids are thinking these days.

      We basically have no law enforcement or military so unless the USA comes in to help it will probably look something like the purge.

      There is also a really bad class divide just between those who own homes and rent and I see examples of resentment over this every single day.

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        None of what you said explains why a revolution would happen. Maybe a race war due to immigration backlash but certainly not a class based revolution.

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          It doesn’t really matter if I’m wrong, the point is that I was banned for no fucking reason lol

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            It’s okay so did I and for same supposed reason as you except my comment was a word on one word each. I have no idea how that incites violence but okay.

            Fuck Steve Huffman.

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      Nothing. He’s your typical brain dead redditor blowing things out of proportion. Not that has anything to with inciting violence.

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    Just got banned for a week for for telling someone they were trolling for calling Biden the Caligula of the US. Still not quite sure why, but my second account got banned too for trying to avoid my ban… LOL.