376 boys in blue sat around and let 19 kids and 2 teachers die - eviltoast
  • limelight79@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    You are seriously overestimating the “good guy with a gun” storyline. Yes, it does happen, but it’s extremely rare. And even if there is a “good guy with a gun” standing around when the shooting starts, they still have to react faster and more accurately than the “bad guy”.

    Of course, maybe we should consider why there are so many shootings that the “good guy with a gun” storyline is even a thing. Even if it did happen more often, it’s solving the wrong problem.

    There are so many shootings in the US these days that it’s not really even making national news any more, unless it’s particularly bad (i.e., body count > some number). There were two yesterday alone, for example.

    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      5 months ago

      I’m not talking about “the good guy with a gun,” I’m talking about “the person who gets anatomically significant hits on target first almost always wins the gun fight.” You can disbelieve this fairly self evident concept all you wish, but it is the case.

      But since you mentioned it, defensive gun uses are estimated (at the lowest) by Harvard at 100k/yr, and that is based solely off of verifiable police reports and completely discounting defensive display mind you. Meanwhile all yearly gun deaths including suicide and accidents are at 60k, intentional firearm homicide is at about 12k, and murders done with rifles are under 500/year.

      Now, if 100k is “extremely rare,” what then would 60k, 12k, or 500 be? If it’s that rare why do dumb stuff like try to ban a rifle responsible for 0.83333333333333% of the deaths? Statistically, more than 2 people defended themselves with a firearm yesterday, by a lot, which rarely makes national news either.

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        5 months ago

        I know I’m not going to convince you, I wanted the info out there for others. Just keep stroking your precious, precious guns and pretending that more guns will solve all of the problems. I mean, I guess it will, if we’re all deceased.

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          5 months ago

          Good thing I had the info, rather than your baseless assumptions that are factually inaccurate. I too am glad I was able to share it, thanks for creating the opportunity for me to say it by being reactionary to my comment that didn’t even say what you thought it said.