Exclusive: Bernie Sanders worries young people are underestimating the threat from Trump - eviltoast
  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I don’t understand why people point out that Biden is “funding the genocide in Palestine” and completely ignore and fail to mention that trump would do the exact same thing.

    He has all but said he would cut Israel loose to do whatever they needed to finish the job.

    The use of Israeli aggression is not a point of comparison when viewing the differences between trump and Biden.

    Edit: and I apologize for the late edit - FWIW Biden has become critical of Israeli actions and offered some aid to Palestinians (Yeah, I absolutely agree it isn’t enough) while trump would prefer to wash his hands of the whole Palestine thing. That is a notable difference.

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      6 months ago

      No one denies that trump will fund it. That’s not the point, but I get what you mean.

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        It isn’t the potential for denial that initiated my reply, it’s the fact that people declare US support of Israel is a strike against Biden when comparing Biden to trump as a reason to consider not voting for Biden. This is a false comparison and it is the point I am making.

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        No one denies that trump will fund it

        And? The problem is that these people won’t really address the fact that Trump would be worse than Biden

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        I’ve argued with multiple people on here who said Trump would be better for Palestinians than Biden is.

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        simply cannot actively support a genocidal party because it runs fundementally against their core values.

        So by not voting they default to the fascist one. Good for them, at least they (didn’t) vote for the least worst option.

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            Ok. GFY for making the “if you vote for Biden you vote for genocide” argument while completely ignoring trump would do the same. You’re just a damn shill for the right wing. Useless MF.

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                Unreal. Willing to try to convince others to not vote so we get fascism on top of genocide. What a transparent tool.

                Seriously. Don’t vote for Biden so this other fascist wins and Palestine sill gets screwed!

                Transparent AF.

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                    lol, keep making stuff up about me, tankie. Keep throwing innuendos at me couched as reason so everyone can read your anti-Biden propaganda instead of what’s actually being discussed. Repeat it every single reply like a good little fascist.

                    E: quick trip through your post history says this is all you do, trash talk democrats and Biden, repeat genocide over and over while never a single mention of trump policy. Well, a quick stop in a porn community to jerk off for a break, right? How’s the propaganda job pay? Any good? Or do you just do it voluntarily out of pure hatred?

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            If voting for Biden is voting for genocide, then not voting or voting third party is voting for Trump, genocide and the destruction of democracy in the US.

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              The destruction of democracy in the United States has much deeper roots, and has been in-process for a long time. How long the effects have been visible is arguable, and the manifestation unpredictable, but fundamentally, a voting system which doesn’t allow people to express their actual preferences, well, isn’t representative of people’s actual preferences.

              I can’t think of any more-profound way to state that truth at this early hour. A “democracy” which doesn’t reflect the will of the people is a democracy in name only, and we can only keep the “lesser-evil” streak going for so long before we’re so far into evil that we “have to” vote for a candidate materially supporting genocide so we don’t get the candidate who supports genocide without having non-actionable “concerns” about it.

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      I don’t understand why people point out that Biden is “funding the genocide in Palestine” and completely ignore and fail to mention that trump would do the exact same thing.

      And hence why I won’t vote for Trump either. It’s not that hard to understand.